[13:02] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12no, we're starting now. [13:02] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12no, that was me. [13:02] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12Just in time [13:02] WE'RE STARTING! [13:02] shhhh [13:02] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12Your name is so close to mine that I keep doing a double-take. XD [13:02] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12I just woke up a little after noon. [13:02] * ZeldaFan06981 is now known as Psy [13:02] this channel hurts my eyes [13:02] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12So, Mage is the moderator... [13:02] i won the grand prize in some Nintendo Power contest, to get Twilight Princess before it's released, but I havent heard from them in ages [13:02] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12Okay good! I just woke up! [13:02] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Okay, we are starting [13:02] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12No more talking out of place from here on [13:02] Really? [13:02] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Mage, take it over [13:02] yeah [13:02] i saw that contest, you lucky little.. [13:02] lol [13:02] you won TP?!!! [13:02] shhhhhh [13:02] yes [13:02] lucky bastard. [13:02] I wish I did, ssh [13:02] this channel hurts my eyes <4Chat Moderator> 12Okay... Thanks for coming, we are going to get this thing underway. According to my random nickname script, Dabombster will be the first to speak about the subject [13:03] <4Chat Moderator> 12I must reiterate that we do not know anything new about twilight princess. The views spoken here are the views of the webmasters of various sites and not necessarily the views of each community [13:03] I read all the minish cap manga, its so sad!!! [13:03] <4Chat Moderator> 12and all that technical mumbo-jumbo [13:04] * James (Lozzie@init-A662C647.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:04] <4Chat Moderator> 12So, lets get underway with our first question [13:04] sad as in bad quality or depressing? [13:04] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Oh wait...one last thing [13:04] i back [13:04] ssshhh [13:04] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12If you fail to respond for 1 minute...you pass [13:04] depressing.... [13:04] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Okay, that's it [13:04] yay [13:04] ? [13:04] whee [13:04] WAAAAAA!!! EZLO AND VAATI HAVE TO LEAVE! [13:04] SH! [13:04] shhhh [13:04] <4Chat Moderator> 12The first question [13:04] <4Chat Moderator> 1219.) Has working as a webmaster or staff member for a Zelda site enriched you in any way? [13:04] <4Chat Moderator> 12if so, how? if not, what do you get out of it? What motivates you to selflessly work to [13:04] <4Chat Moderator> 12build your sites? [13:04] ? [13:04] * Exadis-NU punch's anyone who talks like an idiot. [13:05] * ZeldaFan97389 (zuchat@init-52D36212.ns.aliant.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:05] well, i have dinner, later everyone [13:05] * Vaati_Princess says hi [13:05] stop it [13:05] any1 now what this is? [13:05] ill be right back [13:05] QUIET PLEASE [13:05] * NickNack punches Exadis-NU for not being able to spell punches. [13:05] * ZeldaFan97389 is now known as Aex [13:05] lol [13:05] * Exadis-NU apoligizes for being an idiot. [13:05] * ZeldaFan94074 (PJIRC@init-CF3A9E63.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:05] * ZeldaFan10018 (PJIRC@init-F3A09BBE.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:05] It'll take a bit to get the first answer [13:05] come on dabomster [13:05] purple? [13:05] * ZeldaFan10018 is now known as Hero [13:05] * ZeldaFan05190 (PJIRC@init-C158E568.clv.wideopenwest.com) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:05] his turn is up [13:05] hey everyone! [13:05] hmmmmm [13:06] SH [13:06] Am I too latr for this XD? [13:06] *growls* [13:06] shut up damn it no more typing! [13:06] it started, only talk about what''s going on [13:06] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Dam, speak [13:06] <4Dabombster - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12Well, working for the Zelda sites has helped me in times I have felt down, or that I'm not capable of doing anything. For this sites I've worked for my bosses have encouraged me through all my tough times. [13:06] hmmmmmmmmm [13:06] purple......... [13:06] * Volcanux (PJIRC@init-4279B6DB.bmly.cable.ntl.com) has left #zeldaroundtable [13:06] * ZeldaFan86493 (PJIRC@init-E5AA177C.mpls.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:06] ? [13:07] <4F3 - htloz.net> 12It's definitely been an enriching experience. I've learned plenty about graphics, coding, writing content, and managing a forum. [13:07] * Aex is now known as Aerixeth [13:07] ???? [13:07] gan0n08 We are allowed to talk. Just not like n00bs. And your name is n00bish. [13:07] hey Ive seen that guy at Khakain [13:07] me? [13:07] * SnowManZero (no@27CF62E1.5EFCAFBA.6B14AA0D.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:07] Fail comment of the year foes to you, Exadis. [13:07] Yo! :D [13:07] anyone know how many questions are getting asked? [13:07] hey :) [13:07] if you're going to talk at least talk about what they're saying [13:07] :( [13:07] goes, even. [13:07] Hai :D [13:07] quite a few [13:07] i no we can talk just u guys were talkin nonsence [13:07] Zoe, lol. [13:07] 1000 [13:07] :P [13:07] Hai Harro [13:07] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12Absolutely. For me, it's more about meeting people and building relationships. I love the ZIers with all my heart. If we were all in one city, we'd be inseperable best friends. Getting to know all of these people I've met in the last six years has really had an impact on my life. [13:08] What does that mean Mirror Image? O.o; [13:08] wat the crap is this????? [13:08] Quiet. [13:08] Hello Harro :D [13:08] * ZeldaFan19868 (zuchat@init-95F1D42.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: ZeldaFan19868) [13:08] Are we going to shut up here? [13:08] Hi Zoe and JR [13:08] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Okay, real quick interjection. PASS = skip me for now. Done = no more to say at now, but I'd like to keep my option to reply open. NO MORE = I'm finished for this question/topic. [13:08] Yo. [13:08] * Sabin (DKClassic9@init-F4C03573.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:08] ???? [13:08] and Evan, woohoo [13:08] What does that mean Mirror Image? O.o; ? [13:08] * NickNack slaps Exadis-NU around a bit with a large trout [13:08] members, this isn't supposed to be a chat about anything, discuss the webmasters comments, or just shut up [13:08] wats goin on here? [13:08] Sabin [13:09] Hi [13:09] Hello [13:09] lol [13:09] * Yami (l33t.fr34k@init-9DF4625A.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:09] I think we need this place moderated. [13:09] ... [13:09] Holy... [13:09] This place IS moderated. [13:09] but how u make it purple? [13:09] im back, and im not hungry anymore! [13:09] hey, I have a quick question... Whatever happened to that Zelda Alliance thing a couple of years ago? It seemed a good idea at the time, but this thing now seems the closest thing anything's come to the idea... Unless it already happened and I just didn't notice? [13:09] Everybody hush. You're going to nig up all the logs. [13:09] * ZeldaFan00448 (PJIRC@init-D121A527.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:09] not the public chatroom [13:09] After all, the only people who should be talking are the people are the people with voice. [13:09] cheesecake........ [13:09] Zelda Alliance died off due to disagreements betweent he people working on it. [13:09] and a lack of time [13:09] HI ZELDA =) [13:09] go figure [13:09] oh. shame. [13:09] guys [13:09] :( [13:09] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12No, the public chat remains open: [13:09] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12Personally, working on TDC has made me a bit more competent with the hidden minutiae of the internet (HTML, PHP, the like) which I wouldn't have known otherwise. Great resume stuffers! (Done) [13:09] Someone make it so none of us can chat. Or something [13:10] zeldablog is really zelda alliance, it's just working better [13:10] [13:09:52] After all, the only people who should be talking are the people are the people with voice. <-- Then stfu. ;p [13:10] * ZeldaFan32646 (PJIRC@init-299CD6EE.bb.online.no) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:10] BE QUIET unless you're talking about the webmasters [13:10] * ZeldaFan24582 (zuchat@init-3E1B8F4A.cable.ubr02.pres.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:10] * ZeldaFan03300 (PJIRC@init-DA2E584A.mad.east.verizon.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:10] =( [13:10] * ZeldaFan32646 is now known as TS [13:10] <4JC - psloz.com> 12Building a Zelda site has definately opened my eyes to new things. I've learned many new tasks, and it has definately re-shaped my life. It forced me to become a more mature, smarter, and technically-able person. This was something I've always wanted to do since I saw my very first Zelda sites which were Ganon's tower, Zelda Legends, Zelda Universe, and the Original ZHQ. I've always wanted to show the C [13:10] <4JC - psloz.com> 12No more. [13:10] Funny. [13:10] remember we're here to talk about what they are talking about... [13:10] * ZeldaFan00448 is now known as Gray [13:10] hello [13:10] Just /ignore all the people that spam nonsense. [13:10] Telling peole o be quiet is silly. [13:10] * ZeldaFan24582 is now known as evil [13:10] some1 plz tell me what the crap is this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [13:10] Word. [13:10] they are logging just what they are saying in their other chat... [13:10] iam evil!!!!!!!!! [13:10] But it's still annoying. [13:10] Looks like I'm early. [13:11] muahahahahhahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [13:11] shurrup. [13:11] shut up [13:11] Ryebud, If you don't know then get the hell out. [13:11] rye, this is a roundtable of all zelda webmasters in another chat answering questions [13:11] mahahahahahhahahahahahha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [13:11] I find it funny how the people telling other's to be quiet are taking up more room then the people they are talking to. [13:11] muahahhahahhahahahhaha!!!!!!!! [13:11] we're seeing their chat messages here [13:11] give that hole in your face a chance to heal, evil [13:11] lol [13:11] Dude I hope Nathan is alright. [13:11] but they can't see ours [13:11] * James iggies evil [13:11] * ZeldaFan03300 is now known as IceMan [13:11] * Aerixeth (zuchat@init-52D36212.ns.aliant.net) Quit (Quit: Aerixeth) [13:11] muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah [13:11] <{sadida}> o.o [13:11] * Gray is now known as Gray_Warrior [13:11] evil, stop. Nao. [13:11] THIS IS SAD, WE FINNNALY GET A CHANCE TO DISCUS WAT WE LOVE AS A WHOLE & PEOPLE CANT SHUT THE HELL UP, plz, keep to the subjects [13:11] wats a webmaster? [13:11] lame [13:11] ... [13:11] ... [13:11] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12I find being a webmaster to be very 'enriching'... it certainly doesn't help my wallet, much. Most of the things for "enrichment" are purely technical... I knew basically nothing about all the web coding things before. And there is the community aspect, with managint the forums, and keeping the moderators and the community at large happy. [13:11] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12It is quite an experience. Often stressful, too, but I like it. [13:12] Exadis? [13:12] someone who runs a website [13:12] Listen... the log is going to be taken from THEIR room, but still, it's annoying to see lines of nonsense. [13:12] rye, someone who runs a website [13:12] ...dumbass [13:12] 16 more days, just wait. [13:12] i will stop [13:12] O_O [13:12] o [13:12] *asks everypne to please discuss what the roundtable people have to say [13:12] james dont be mean [13:12] does that mean they have their own server [13:12] Yes? [13:12] JAMES OWNS YOU [13:12] * Gray_Warrior (PJIRC@init-D121A527.cable.mindspring.com) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:12] <3 JAMES [13:12] .... uhm, if we're gonna stay on topic, then who wants to discuss their webmaster responsabilities....? [13:12] *hugs fierce-deity* [13:12] It's Alex [13:12] guys [13:12] [18:11] wats a webmaster? <-- my faith in life is long gone now with this sort of comment [13:12] Ha [13:12] wth?? [13:12] <{sadida}> My goodness. [13:12] Way to have a gay name Alex. [13:12] Hey guys [13:12] *pulls loose* [13:12] *HUGS EVERYONE* [13:12] if you're not here for the zelda roundtable, please leave. if you ARE, only talk about the zelda roundtable. [13:12] * Doh is now known as Doh-ZTHL [13:12] sorry I'm late [13:13] Thanks [13:13] A webmaster is the owner of a website [13:13] TS, that you? [13:13] <4Chat Moderator> 12ok, lord-of-shadow, go [13:13] Jerk [13:13] purple:this is confusing [13:13] xD [13:13] *hugs iceman* [13:13] no [13:13] THERE IS NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT [13:13] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12What motivates me to do what I do? I've thought on this question before, and it's a relatively difficult one, but in the end, I think that I do it for the community. I love seeing people reactions when they read my articles and enjoy them. I love it when people get to know me because they visit my site regularly. I love interacting with other fans and spreading everything Zelda, in ot [13:13] still didn't work [13:13] SO DONT TALK [13:13] Yeah it's me JR [13:13] "OMG I LIKE BEING A WEBMASTER" [13:13] gah, you have to remember i come from a chat where everyone makes fun of everyone else [13:13] * ZeldaFan28883 (PJIRC@init-D121A527.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:13] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12Making a Zelda site has both given me skills (learning coding, managing content etc). Learning such abilities will I am sure help me in future life. However I would have to say that these things come second fiddle to the friendships and contacts I have made, this as many webbiesw will agree is the most rewarding part of working on Zelda website. [13:13] Yo :D [13:13] * Mess (Mess@init-C770EFD2.buf.adelphia.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:13] I'm not going to kiss Scott's ass and tell him he rocks too. [13:13] guys [13:13] * Aerixeth (Blah@init-52D36212.ns.aliant.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:13] *hugs fierce deity again* [13:13] *sigh* [13:13] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12What motivates me? The fans. I spend a lot of time on my site posting fan works, and their excitement at seeing their work online is what gives me motivation. Especially for those fans who wouldn't know how to make a website of their own. DONE [13:13] Hello :D [13:13] none of you rock. stfu. [13:13] *breaks free* [13:13] <{sadida}> Nicely stated l-o-s. [13:13] this isn't meant to be a chatroom. if yo want to talk, go t a normal chatroom. [13:13] hah =p [13:14] Hmm... [13:14] i should probly get back 2 runescape.... [13:14] *hugs fierce deity* [13:14] *cough* [13:14] * KIFIKA is now known as KIFIKA| [13:14] *breaks free* [13:14] * ZeldaFan28883 (PJIRC@init-D121A527.cable.mindspring.com) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:14] yeah, you do that. [13:14] * Sabin slaps HarroSIN around a bit with a large trout [13:14] *hugs* [13:14] How long has this been goin for? [13:14] * KIFIKA| is now known as KIFIKA [13:14] Twilight-Princess is right, stfu [13:14] Thank you, Sadida [13:14] Nate is going to stab me -_-; [13:14] *puts up hugging shield* [13:14] I couldn't make it until now [13:14] * evil is now known as good [13:14] * BlackMage sets mode: +o Kokiri [13:14] it just started [13:14] * good is now known as evil [13:14] didn't miss much, mess. [13:14] ithis is the first question [13:14] Lysia has a point, it's the fans that really do help the community and can push many webmasters to continue [13:14] * evil is now known as good [13:14] * ZeldaFan58535 (PJIRC@init-D121A527.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:14] * Aerixeth (Blah@init-52D36212.ns.aliant.net) Quit (Quit: You people scare me, and that's probably what compels me to you all.) [13:14] * ZeldaFan94207 (PJIRC@init-CF3A9E63.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:14] this is turning out to b a flop [13:14] * did it work yet? [13:14] * MirrorImage was kicked by Kokiri (This is not #zelda. Do not treat it as such.) [13:14] * ZeldaFan58535 is now known as kimkamando [13:14] * MirrorImage (Mirror@init-F964AE1.bflony.adelphia.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:14] not enough questions? [13:14] no... [13:14] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12I never thought I would end up creating a Zelda community, but I've never regretted it. It's given me a chance to meet some incredible, fun people, and I wouldn't trade that for anything in the world. I just wish I knew some of the other webmasters here better! ^_^' I'm done for now. [13:15] im assuming someone in the regular chat is impersonation l-o-s [13:15] * Doh-ZTHL (PJIRC@55C52883.3337247F.22B63F8B.IP) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:15] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12It has been very enriching indeed. I have gained many friends and learned a lot about myself. I have been doing the Zelda site thing for 7 years, and in that time I have come to love the community and engross myself further into the zelda series then I thought I ever would. [13:15] *impersonating [13:15] * ZeldaFan94074 (PJIRC@init-CF3A9E63.mia.bellsouth.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [13:15] * ZeldaFan56738 (PJIRC@55C52883.3337247F.22B63F8B.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:15] * ZeldaFan48143 (PJIRC@init-C1D2596E.slkc.qwest.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:15] No. It's the real me. [13:15] ...nah, i think that's l-o-s [13:15] Go MN! [13:15] * ZeldaFan56738 is now known as Doh-ZTHL [13:15] Go MN, woo. [13:15] HI ZELDA! [13:15] i'm pretty sure they registered their names [13:15] can those webmasters see wat were're saying? [13:15] Go MN! :D [13:15] can we talk about zelda now? [13:15] can we talk about zelda now? [13:15] can we talk about zelda now? [13:15] can we talk about zelda now? [13:15] can we talk about zelda now? [13:15] * Bwa_Kell (Bwa_Kell@init-DB2B8919.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:15] Can someone stop the stupid. Please. [13:15] go oot [13:15] its him [13:15] guys [13:15] AND blocked. [13:15] * ZeldaFan61658 (PJIRC@init-CF3A9E63.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:15] * good is now known as error [13:15] If you people would just shut up those of us who came here for the roundtable can actually talk about the roundtable [13:15] It's slowly killing my brain. [13:15] * Dabombster (PJIRC@init-C1D2596E.slkc.qwest.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [13:15] iam error [13:15] OOT rocks [13:15] iam error [13:15] WTF was that? [13:15] if you want to talk about zelda go to the ZELDA CHAT [13:15] iam error [13:15] this is not the zelda chat [13:15] iam error [13:16] * ZeldaFan48143 is now known as Dabombster [13:16] i waited a mont for this [13:16] iam error [13:16] iam error [13:16] if you were l-o-s then you would have the special title and blue font :P [13:16] Yami: I agree. Stupid needs to be stopped. [13:16] iam error [13:16] * error was kicked by crazysjd89 (crazysjd89) [13:16] there we go [13:16] :) [13:16] Nah, I only get that when I talk in the webmaster chat. [13:16] <3 [13:16] =) [13:16] finally [13:16] oh ok [13:16] everything said in the webmaster chat gets quoted here by the chatbot [13:16] this makes no sense [13:16] if I talk directly here, it looks normal [13:16] <4The Real Link - Nintendo-Universe.com> 12Its been fun covering all of the areas of the Nintendo Universe including Zelda and keeping it real playing and supporting Nintendo. I also enjoy writing the content and helping other Nintendo fans. I have also made many friends through this including the staff who I really have come to appreciate for all of their help and friendship. Done [13:16] *pokes l-o-s* I think it's the real thing. *stab stab* [13:16] hay l-o-s <3 [13:16] * ZeldaFan74326 (zuchat@init-3E1B8F4A.cable.ubr02.pres.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:16] ? [13:16] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12Working on a Zelda site has enriched me in many ways. It's led me to open up a passion for talking about Zelda, in more ways than I'd've imagined before entering the online world. It's also allowed me to learn how to code in HTML, from early on I've been a firm believer of knowing HTML, which was thankfully installed in me from many places, Lysia being one of them. Websites are now a pa [13:16] ? [13:17] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I passed? [13:17] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12*part of who I am, and I'm happy to be a member of them. The fans are what makes my site. The community that I'm a member of I feel that I'm here to serve, in the only ways that I know how. [13:17] <4TS - multiftp.free.fr/z64> 12I did [13:17] can we talk about zelda now? [13:17] * ZeldaFan74326 is now known as person [13:17] can we talk about zelda now? [13:17] can we talk about zelda now? [13:17] can we talk about zelda now? [13:17] can we talk about zelda now? [13:17] can we talk about zelda now? [13:17] can we talk about zelda now? [13:17] can we talk about zelda now? [13:17] ... [13:17] fuck you! [13:17] yes [13:17] kickplz. [13:17] SHUT UP [13:17] ... [13:17] STOP DOING THAT! [13:17] * kimkamando was kicked by crazysjd89 (crazysjd89) [13:17] Kimkamando SHUT THE FUCK UP [13:17] yay =) [13:17] isn't there a +m? [13:17] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I've learned what it takes to run a community. It's a lot harder than I thought. You get to see a lot of wonderful things as a webmaster, you get a chance to create pretty good content and stuff for fans. However, you learn you can't please everyone, and you get a glimpse into the dark side of some people, perhaps even yourself. [13:17] * ZeldaFan65472 (PJIRC@init-D121A527.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:17] * ZeldaFan65472 is now known as kimkamando [13:17] no he's right [13:17] stop swearing ppl [13:17] Mess, people would need voices. [13:17] gah, op me, i'll kick the stupid [13:17] whos up for assigning hops [13:17] exactly.... mute those without a voice [13:17] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12But, you get involved in something, it's pretty awesome. I wouldn't trade it for anything else. DONE [13:17] Kim, stop now. If yo udo it again, banned. [13:17] * ZeldaFan94207 (PJIRC@init-CF3A9E63.mia.bellsouth.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [13:18] plz [13:18] i wouldn't worry about it [13:18] ok [13:18] we want people to chat [13:18] *sigh* [13:18] i got it [13:18] * ZeldaFan79736 (zuchat@init-52D36212.ns.aliant.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:18] but [13:18] I'm stuck outside folks... [13:18] I'd like to say what some new plans for the zelda community might be [13:18] don't say it [13:18] * ZeldaFan79736 is now known as Aex [13:18] no cause they do this [13:18] Hmmm.. [13:18] mage plz [13:18] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Even though VGRC isn't a Zelda site, I'd just like to add in my two cents. [13:18] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12It's been a fun project. It's not exactly the most popular place out there, but we all enjoy the frequent compliments we get, and attention (as small as it may be) from publishers and high traffic places like Digg. Makes us feel like something has been accomplished. [13:18] could we plz actually have a discussion here? [13:18] Fair enough TSA, I'd say for you not to try and please everyone, you obviosuly don't, which has probably helped you build up your community [13:18] Is it true that Nintendo are planing to realease an official timeline for Zelda? [13:18] Hey Alex you made it. [13:18] * ryebud258 is now known as link [13:18] just blackmage dabombster [13:18] What's VGRC? [13:18] yay [13:18] *pm him [13:18] * person (zuchat@init-3E1B8F4A.cable.ubr02.pres.blueyonder.co.uk) Quit (Quit: person) [13:18] Video Game Resource Centre. [13:18] or Center, if you must. [13:18] kim, we are here to watch the webmasters discuss [13:19] no bwa [13:19] I don't know what happened Leinator... [13:19] * link is now known as ryebud258 [13:19] ping timeout dabombster [13:19] * JasonRose17 is now known as JasonRose17-ZSO [13:19] Oh. Never heard of it. Centre. [13:19] * HarroSIN is now known as HarroSIN-ZSO [13:19] da de da de dum [13:19] *Center [13:19] guys please [13:19] *centre [13:19] * YamiZoe is now known as YamiZoe-ZSO [13:19] your ping went too high or too low [13:19] seriously please b quiet [13:19] OK an official timeline had deffinetly made sense. [13:19] Some people need to SHUT UP. [13:19] ?????? [13:19] ignore Yami's backwards english pronunciation :P [13:19] :P [13:19] * SnowManZero is now known as SnowManZero-ZSO [13:19] <4Chat Moderator> 12Okay [13:19] ?????? [13:19] what happened to volcanux [13:19] ? [13:19] had to go eat [13:19] * Aex (zuchat@init-52D36212.ns.aliant.net) Quit (Quit: Aex) [13:19] ? [13:19] He went to eat Leinator [13:19] * LazySaviour (HellsSavio@init-6A1C504D.brig.cable.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:20] lol [13:20] I really *am* english, tho - from england and all. [13:20] <4Chat Moderator> 12anyone else have any input on that question (i think it was more of "give your views" than build a conversation... anyone argue if we go to the next question? [13:20] if you type "/ignore USERNAME" you can ignore anyone that's bothering you [13:20] *eat, Leinator [13:20] lol [13:20] Im sorry [13:20] * ryebud258 is now known as runescape [13:20] Im so very sorry [13:20] lolz [13:20] Yo! [13:20] Los that doesnt work [13:20] Hai [13:20] * runescape is now known as ryebud258 [13:20] crap, you were right, he's outside my housw [13:20] Oh. [13:20] * ZeldaFan24941 (zuchat@init-6476EF7A.oakland.resnet.pitt.edu) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:20] *house [13:20] I left and I left this on [13:20] ?? [13:20] lol [13:20] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12As I said, it's the community that motivates me. I've been a member of the overall Zelda community for years now, and I have seen sites from the view of fan, reader, staff, and webmaster. When I was younger, I practically idolized these big important webmasters. [13:20] * ZeldaFan24941 (zuchat@init-6476EF7A.oakland.resnet.pitt.edu) Quit (Quit: ZeldaFan24941) [13:20] * PilotEvan_US is now known as PilotEvan_US-ZSO [13:20] wat r we here 4? [13:21] to listen [13:21] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12only people who use profanity or flood should be kicked: [13:21] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12KNowing that now, I am in that position, and that there are younger fans out there that look at me in the same way... it is a wonderful experience. [13:21] The roundtable. [13:21] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12I wouldn't trade it for the world. [13:21] * ZeldaFan12827 (zuchat@init-6476EF7A.oakland.resnet.pitt.edu) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:21] we're watching what the webmasters say [13:21] 2 wat? [13:21] ... [13:21] idolizing webmasters, anyone who does that? [13:21] * ash_link--ZSO (zombiepani@init-B7B43864.ptldme.east.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: ) [13:21] the webmasters make no sense [13:21] Someone kill the stupid [13:21] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12I didn't start ZU, so I can't say I feel special for creating some big community, I just joined it one day out of boredom, mostly... bit it was certainly cool (for me) to go from being a random member to being the webmaster of one of the largest Zelda sites out there... [13:21] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12I'm not some prodigy when it comes to Zelda--TSA & l-o-s have that market cornered, I'm not all that good when it comes to coding and graphics. I'm just a guy, who does stuff. Moral of the story, anybody can do it, if they really want. [13:21] *raises hand* webmasters rock =P [13:21] wow [13:21] makes no sense though [13:21] * Domanic is now known as Dom|pixelparadisecouk [13:21] I think Scoot is a dooty head. [13:22] ryebud, we've been asked a question, so we're answering it. In turns. When the next question comes around, you'll see what the format is. [13:22] i have a website [13:22] Yes [13:22] * ZeldaFan12827 is now known as TTLYZELDA [13:22] Nice Dom. A little advertisement, eh? [13:22] liek, I'm a webmaster too, do i win? [13:22] some crappy freewebs I beat. [13:22] * kimkamando (PJIRC@init-D121A527.cable.mindspring.com) Quit (Quit: kimkamando) [13:22] bet* [13:22] even. [13:22] ? [13:22] dom, yopu nick sucks [13:22] Ryebud: No one cares. You dont even know what a webmaster is [13:22] your* [13:22] why thank you, ttly. And you're even using my webchat. [13:22] so? [13:22] :P [13:22] James. We love you long time <3 [13:22] Which is very sad. [13:22] Very much so. [13:22] Anyone ever heard of Oddysey of Hyrule? It's crappy now but it was the first Zelda site I ever went on :D... speaking of which, anyone seen this? http://internal.tbi.net/~max/ztriforce06.htm [13:22] * BlackMage sets mode: +o Mess [13:22] for serious, Jimbo is an old lady that plays tetris all day. [13:22] this still makes no sense 2 me [13:22] * ZeldaFan63678 (PJIRC@init-CF3A9E63.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:22] oh man [13:22] Mess: you're in charge here [13:22] hey matt [13:22] the odyssey of hyrule is the best [13:23] haha, hiya Jimbo [13:23] used to be [13:23] Hey mess. [13:23] it's beenmy homepage for years [13:23] We love you hard and fast. [13:23] * BlackMage sets mode: +v Lysia [13:23] WAS the best. [13:23] I guess I'll nick change now that I've been found out [13:23] * ZeldaFan61658 (PJIRC@init-CF3A9E63.mia.bellsouth.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [13:23] Odyssey Used to be my favorite [13:23] YOU CAN'T HIDE FROM ME IN ALL CAPS [13:23] IS the best [13:23] * TTLYZELDA is now known as Matt991 [13:23] Go mess. [13:23] The Odyssesy of Hyrule rocked. [13:23] heh [13:23] ah what ever. back to runescape i guess [13:23] ... [13:23] but Video Gamer X got pretty lazy [13:23] OH NOES!!!!1 [13:23] Runescape is for fags. :D [13:23] <4The Real Link - Nintendo-Universe.com> 12I have also loved leaning all that I have about webdesign. Its been great and I really hope to continue learning and keeping the other Nintendo fans informed. [13:23] and he's a psycho [13:23] Oddesy was crazy good until it turned to sh*t [13:23] * ZeldaFan86771 (zuchat@init-5C707E32.dial1.denver1.level3.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:23] haha, yeah, I guess the all caps thing kinda gave me away [13:23] hoshi [13:23] yeah there are hardly any updates now [13:23] Trudat, wigga. [13:23] grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [13:23] I'm a Co-Webmaster. But yeah, Doesnt really count to naything xD [13:23] It's Matt991! <3 [13:23] * SnowManZero-ZSO was kicked by Mess (Mess) [13:23] * Daemar (PJIRC@init-BF42D0CA.hsd1.il.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Goodbye.) [13:23] aaaaanyway, why is no one paying attention to the blue text?? [13:23] Can we go to the next question? [13:23] Hiya Yamz! [13:23] <4JC - psloz.com> 12When it comes to the Zelda Community, you don't need to be a important webmaster. Zelda is a world where you can be your own self. The Zelda Community is a place where you can freely build a website that reflects your expressions of the Zelda series. The Zelda Community is a land of opprotunity. Done. [13:23] o-o how did mess do that [13:23] ... [13:24] ah [13:24] Mess has ops. [13:24] mess is an op. [13:24] * The_Teej (tjalian@init-F9273AE3.lutn.cable.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:24] just noticed that [13:24] Yo! [13:24] Why'd Snowman get kicked? [13:24] * The_Teej is now known as TheTeej [13:24] HEY! [13:24] JR! [13:24] they don't seem to be talkong 2 us.... [13:24] A land of opprotunity eh? [13:24] They hate ZSO >_> [13:24] Boo! [13:24] * ZeldaFan63678 is now known as writer [13:24] Oh noez [13:24] lol [13:24] Hai Tj [13:24] Wait [13:24] who does? [13:24] *stab!* [13:24] New TP info? [13:24] what... [13:24] Hylia? [13:24] the webmasters [13:24] I'll tell you later. [13:24] ooops [13:24] Ok [13:24] ryebud, they can't talk to us [13:24] How long is this going to last? [13:24] oh my lord that's a bright desk light [13:24] ? [13:24] this was a bad first question all agree [13:24] two hours [13:25] * ZeldaFan50600 (PJIRC@init-C1D2596E.slkc.qwest.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:25] Chosen at random, gan0n08: :p [13:25] Hrmm long enough I guess. [13:25] TSA -- what new TP info? [13:25] * Hero (PJIRC@init-F3A09BBE.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:25] I think it is sorta appropriate, though [13:25] I don't know... [13:25] none. [13:25] * SnowManZero-ZSO (no@27CF62E1.5EFCAFBA.6B14AA0D.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:25] ...hes joking. [13:25] it's a secret [13:25] and I take offense to that ;) It was my question. [13:25] so umm... We gonna get us some hoes or what? Because I've got a case of wine. [13:25] i might as well leave. this makes no sense [13:25] sorry 'bout that :P [13:25] for the webmasters to open a community discussion with their views on the community [13:25] * ryebud258 (PJIRC@init-B95C52BE.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:25] Hai again SMZ [13:25] Hai [13:25] * TheTeej is now known as TheTeej-ZSO-ZP [13:25] Secret TP INFO! It's a Zelda game! END SECRET TP INFO [13:25] hey [13:25] umm... what's ZSO? [13:25] OMG [13:25] *gasp* [13:25] zomgs! [13:25] * ZeldaFan86771 (zuchat@init-5C707E32.dial1.denver1.level3.net) has left #zeldaroundtable [13:25] NO WAY! [13:26] You're on a need to know basis [13:26] OMG RLY? [13:26] * ZeldaFan45377 (PJIRC@init-B95C52BE.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:26] and you don't need to know [13:26] Just kidding :-p [13:26] Zelda Secrets... Online! [13:26] Hey Scott. I never would of guessed that. [13:26] Possibly. [13:26] * ZeldaFan45377 is now known as ryebud258 [13:26] I'm thinking it's like some weird trend to add some pompous tags, watch I can do it too! [13:26] I´m webmaster of the swedish zelda site http://www.zelda-sajten.com someone needs to represent Sweden ;) [13:26] * Dabombster (PJIRC@init-C1D2596E.slkc.qwest.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [13:26] it is great u guys have done this for us, y spend ur time for little to no money [13:26] yeah, groundbreaking info, isn't it? [13:26] ZSO is the place that co-found the Arwing [13:26] * Matt991 is now known as Matt991-POOP [13:26] see, I have the POOP tag [13:26] * ZeldaFan50600 is now known as Dabombster [13:26] <4Chat Moderator> 12we'll pass you for this one, kain, we gotta get moving [13:26] Yay for Tj [13:26] oh. you guys rock. [13:26] ZSO = Zelda's Secret Ocarina [13:26] :D [13:26] Spread the truth. [13:26] * Yami is now known as Yami-POOP [13:26] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12We lost Dam, again. [13:26] <3 [13:26] you now have the KICK tag. [13:26] * Yami-POOP was kicked by Kokiri (Begone, Foul Demon!) [13:26] can some1 plz tell me why we r here? [13:26] * Matt991-POOP was kicked by Kokiri (Begone, Foul Demon!) [13:26] * Yami (l33t.fr34k@init-9DF4625A.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:26] Haha [13:26] I was considering [13:26] <4Chat Moderator> 12Our second question is: [13:27] I'd like to say that maybe we should decide another major plan for the zelda community [13:27] <4Chat Moderator> 12Why do you think no TP media has been revealed in eight months? [13:27] :( [13:27] because you decided to join, rye. [13:27] <4Chat Moderator> 12we will start with Lysia [13:27] Oooh, a good one [13:27] ...What does poop stand for? [13:27] Rye, we are here to watch the Roundtable. [13:27] Because [13:27] wonderful double-click kick [13:27] lets face it [13:27] The Teej? You're from ZSO? [13:27] Because Captain Wow stole all the material? [13:27] Yes [13:27] Not again... [13:27] Who is this? [13:27] heh [13:27] ...? [13:27] new question!!! [13:27] the webmasters talking? [13:27] you guys need to chill out [13:27] That's one of the greatest sites ever. Period. [13:27] * ZeldaFan30045 (PJIRC@init-6BF17076.sympatico.ca) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:27] not much info was released between E3 04 and GDC 05 [13:27] no new TP media in 8 months? that's not true [13:27] Hell yes. [13:27] * Matt991 (matt991@init-6476EF7A.oakland.resnet.pitt.edu) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:27] Haha :) [13:27] * Link_of_Hyrule (PJIRC@init-F8D07D18.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [13:27] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12I believe that Nintendo want to build up the suspense, and let the fans use their imagination. Sometimes, if you release too much too early, it could give too much away. [13:27] pretty much [13:27] Anyone in the UK read NGC magazine? It got shit now. [13:27] BM, mine isn't working again... [13:28] its cause when we get tp nintendo wants our heads to explode from its greatness [13:28] Oh snap, psy, turn around, TSA is looking at us... >.> [13:28] j/k TSA ;) [13:28] if anyone gets nintendo power, there's new stuff all the time [13:28] they don't make sense though [13:28] 4 BM, mine isn't working...again [13:28] hi [13:28] I heard, trin [13:28] Annoying people. Peace out. [13:28] but if u dont realese enough people will lose intrest [13:28] * Exadis-NU (exapix@init-2606F85A.ras05.ord01.dial.cogentco.com) has left #zeldaroundtable [13:28] * ZeldaFan58188 (PJIRC@init-F7DC165F.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:28] milkshake. [13:28] it's really damn thin and everything [13:28] Although that new site ONM is because awesome [13:28] like a comic or something [13:28] * ZeldaFan49707 (PJIRC@init-CF3A9E63.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:28] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Hrmm.... it is an unusual move for Nintendo, considering how much media they spew out for Pokémon and Mario. With so many fans watching over it like a hawk, my guess is that they must be doing something big to it that they don't want us to know quite yet. [13:28] becoming* [13:28] * ZeldaFan06520 (PJIRC@init-F8D07D18.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:28] Man-milkshape, Yami my good man? [13:28] * ZeldaFan06520 is now known as Link_of_Hyrule [13:28] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12A big surprise, hopefully. [13:28] Hey, MN's included in the round table? [13:28] Go MN [13:28] Naturally. [13:28] hello [13:28] if you are a true Zelda fan, you'll wait for it [13:28] HAY HOMIEZ! [13:28] since when? :P [13:29] so am I :P [13:29] * ZeldaFan90491 (zuchat@init-5C1FE0DB.direcpc.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:29] Go MN! [13:29] STUPENDOUS. [13:29] yep. the webmasters definetly make no sense [13:29] Zlinxia -- I agree. [13:29] so many people [13:29] If you're a true zelda fan you're not wasting your time in this chat room. [13:29] OMG :/ [13:29] Rye, what are yo utalking about? [13:29] You all should be ashamed. [13:29] ryebud258, its you who does not understand. [13:29] I know why. They cancelled it and don't know how to break it to us! [13:29] They are answering questions. [13:29] Go back to Runescape. [13:29] It makes perfect sense. [13:29] Lol [13:29] Make no sense? In what way? [13:29] * ZeldaFan49707 is now known as writersblock [13:29] * ZeldaFan58188 (PJIRC@init-F7DC165F.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:29] wat questions? [13:29] then what are you doing here mirrorimage? [13:29] If you're a true Zelda fan you'll gauge your eyes out right now. [13:29] They're probably working on Revolution screenies [13:29] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12They hyped it for a last year release date, What do you exspect. If they keep releasing more we will know the entire storyline before the game even hits our consoles. Nintendo is staying reserved, because they can be. Overhyping is overrated. [13:29] MI: difference from true Zelda fan, and a Mature Zelda fan [13:29] I'm currently in the process of the left eye. [13:29] * ZeldaFan90491 is now known as Revolink24 [13:29] Not being a true zelda fan, duh/ [13:29] the mature fans aren't spamming this chatroom [13:29] crazy jd im from zelda-infinite sketch board member me? im Hylian Hero [13:29] GUYS [13:30] Maturity is for poopie heads. [13:30] Go nate!! [13:30] TP hi [13:30] yes? [13:30] FD [13:30] The GCN can do multiple layer discs from what I hear, so adding extra textures *is* possible [13:30] wat? [13:30] * writer (PJIRC@init-CF3A9E63.mia.bellsouth.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [13:30] im HH [13:30] if you're not a zelda fan, PLEASE leave [13:30] Yes, I remember you from the ZI sketchboard. [13:30] umm, I got a question, when is Nintendo gonna come out with a Zelda game for one of those plug and play systems. You know like the ones that play the old school Namco games like PacMan and Pole Position? [13:30] hey HH [13:30] oh hi =) [13:30] 2005 was supose to b the year of zelda [13:30] i wanna play zelda right now... [13:30] where are the webmasters? [13:30] all that came out was mc [13:30] Good for you. :D [13:30] go play it then. [13:30] The webmaster is out fighting criminals [13:30] Lookie, it's HH. [13:30] The webmasters are in a different room. [13:30] * Doh-ZTHL (PJIRC@55C52883.3337247F.22B63F8B.IP) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:30] What they say is being relayed over her.e [13:30] Or, possibly writing a piece of code to say that if this game is running on the Revolution, increase the polygons [13:30] ahh... [13:30] my sis got the game system :P [13:30] who needs plug and plays when you got a revolution [13:30] iceman? [13:30] Now THAT would be awesome [13:30] Spiderman can't always be here alright, he's a busy busy man. [13:30] Yup yup. [13:30] <4The Real Link - Nintendo-Universe.com> 12I am starting to get suspicious of this. I am starting to think Nintendo may be hiding something from us. It may a cool little feature not talked about or possibly, they just do not want to give too much away. It will be interesting to see what happens. [13:30] I'm a super hero, y'know. [13:31] * {sadida} (zuchat@init-21FAB477.neo.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: {sadida}) [13:31] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12[If you have something to say, and it may take awhile - say "typing"] [13:31] * Psy (PJIRC@init-596167B9.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:31] something big IS happening [13:31] Or they CANCELLED it. [13:31] something with the boss [13:31] * ZeldaFan28054 (PJIRC@init-596167B9.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:31] so many people [13:31] why woulkd nintendo hide something from us? [13:31] All we can do is speculate. [13:31] Spiderman can't always be here alright, he's a busy busy man. For hype. [13:31] * Revolink24 (zuchat@init-5C1FE0DB.direcpc.com) Quit (Quit: Revolink24) [13:31] * ZeldaFan28054 is now known as Psy [13:31] nintendo says "it's mor than we could ever expect" [13:31] I can understand them holding back Revo info, but it's not like Microsoft is going to go 'WOW, new Z target engine! LETS STEAL IT FOR FABLE 2 LOL' [13:31] Because Nintendo is a secret nazi propaganda. [13:31] <4TS - multiftp.free.fr/z64> 12Nintendo is very uptight about the inner workings of its game, and most likely want to keep the story-line as secret as possible. However, I would disagree with the question, as I know a few people with the actual demo... [13:31] * adlez47 (adlez47@init-42FA221A.ipt.aol.com) Quit (Quit: initialized ) [13:31] * ZeldaFan13637 (zuchat@init-5C1FE0DB.direcpc.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:32] And replaced it with... *shock horror*... PHANTOM HOURGLASS. [13:32] LS, YTMND fan? [13:32] eh, they're hiding the Revo specs as of now. Might as well do it with a game that's coming out around the same time. [13:32] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12ok [13:32] Nintendo is keeping it secret for the fans of course. [13:32] Which is an even crappier title than TP, anywya [13:32] Yup yup [13:32] * MirrorImage is now known as SteveTheQueen [13:32] nintendo always tries 2 hide something [13:32] Awesome. [13:32] indeed [13:32] TS -- since when? [13:32] * Toad064 (Toad064@init-FAD48B2A.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:32] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12typing [13:32] :-# [13:32] :O [13:32] hi [13:32] Since he owned a site. [13:32] duh. Nintendo don't want their awesome suprises leaked. [13:32] Might as well use my forum name, I juess. [13:32] how do heck do people get the tp demo anyway [13:32] No [13:32] cool [13:32] as in [13:32] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I think they couldn't show anything. [13:32] i know tsa had one [13:32] since when did people get the TP demo [13:32] Like a wrapped up Christmas present. [13:32] * Toad064 (Toad064@init-FAD48B2A.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) has left #zeldaroundtable [13:32] * Hazz (holyhazz@init-30986F95.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:33] Damnit [13:33] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Any new media may reveal something they don't want to be seen. [13:33] they always leak eventually [13:33] Could have stolen it... [13:33] the TP demo was at E3 last year. [13:33] Howmuch have I missed [13:33] Hazz don't use "bad" words [13:33] not much [13:33] I asked a couple of times for the demo, and both times I got no. [13:33] * Toad064 (Toad064@init-FAD48B2A.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:33] People have stolen demos before. [13:33] of course more than 5 copies have been made. [13:33] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Personally, I think they're going to drop a bomb at E3... [13:33] Hazz, pitiful banter. [13:33] xD [13:33] * Toad064 (Toad064@init-FAD48B2A.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) has left #zeldaroundtable [13:33] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Perhaps as big as the revelation of Cel-Shading. [13:33] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12done [13:33] they werent too keen on keepin red steel out [13:33] the bomb of cancellation. [13:33] lol [13:33] XD [13:33] E3 :) [13:33] wats E3? [13:33] rye [13:33] ... [13:33] ... [13:33] TSA -- possibly [13:33] Your kidding me. [13:33] omfg... [13:33] >< [13:33] ... [13:33] -_-' [13:33] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Because it's big secretive Nintendo? Durh. [13:33] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12This is what they're famous for: Holding back information, letting as little trickle to the press as possible; only enough to get the fans nice and rabid enough to want it on launch day. They've done this for as long as I can remember. [13:33] when TP comes out, I'm not going on the zelda sites or any GAMING SITES!!! [13:33] *slap* [13:33] Rye... Yo usdon't know what E3 is? [13:33] What's.... E3.... [13:33] Someone kick ryebud258 now. [13:33] NOOB RUSH!! KEKEKEKEKE [13:33] <4Dabombster - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12I think that Nintendo is trying to keep it a secret for as long as they can. They don2019t want us to know too much about the plot, or it could ruin the game once we actually begin playing it. If they do want us to know more about it, they2019ll demonstrate at E32026 [13:33] wo that would suck! [13:33] clearly you're not a zelda/nintendo fan, so you're lost [13:33] ARE YOU NINE YEARS OLD RYEBUD258!?!@?!?#@? [13:34] rye is not one of us... [13:34] >_> [13:34] Is he 8 or some shit? [13:34] OK, PLZ DIE NOW. KTHXBI. [13:34] * Yami was kicked by Mess (Mess) [13:34] <4F3 - htloz.net> 12It certainly stirs up speculation - hype - if there's little to go on. It seems the less we know the more it bothers us. Maybe they're taking a page out of Bungie's book? Release a name, a few screens, some tiny details. They just have to be careful about how far they take it, or risk losing the interest of all but die-hards. It also worries me, because I've seen this kind of silence with... [13:34] no [13:34] <4F3 - htloz.net> 12...Halo 2 and Windows Vista. Both were being scrapped and rebuilt from scratch during those long periods of silence. I shudder to think Nintendo may have needed to stop what they were doing to completely rebuild to codebase at some point. [13:34] * Yami (l33t.fr34k@init-9DF4625A.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:34] i'm 13 [13:34] :\ [13:34] * Jordan (Luigi@init-D9586315.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:34] we don't want to answer stupid questions, so PLEASE just leave [13:34] :( [13:34] Yami, avoid harsh profanity. [13:34] *slap* [13:34] my bad. [13:34] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12Hype. The less they say, the more we speculate, and the more excited we get. Personally, as frustrating as it is sometimes is, I like that they're keeping so quiet. This way, just about everything will be a big surprise, and will make the game more fun for us. Why would we look forward to Twilight Princess if we already know a lot about it? I think this year's E3 will prove to be quit [13:34] its np [13:34] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12With so much impressive software on the market right now, and the strong Nintendo and Zelda brand name, I think the reasoning is along the lines of under-promise and over-deliver [13:34] * TSA sets mode: +o JC [13:34] Profanity is a bitch, eh? [13:34] WOOPS! [13:34] * ZeldaFan30045 (PJIRC@init-6BF17076.sympatico.ca) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:34] * Toad064 (Toad064@init-FAD48B2A.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:34] xD [13:34] LoL! [13:34] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12A horrifying new secret: the main character is now Tingle! (Okay, that was terrible.) Done. [13:34] seriosly wats E3? [13:34] * eazyseph (eazyseph@init-844B8EE7.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:34] F3 -- that *is* possible, maybe a major flaw in the core engine. [13:34] They can't do that! I won't let them! [13:34] Umm [13:34] * Jordan was kicked by Kokiri (Begone, Foul Demon!) [13:34] LoL [13:34] Google [13:34] Eazy sucks! [13:34] sup [13:35] E3 is the Electronic Entertainment Expo. [13:35] yes he does [13:35] Biggest gaming con of the year. [13:35] * LazySaviour was kicked by Mess (Mess) [13:35] Ryebud you jave no idea how much I want to Alt + f4 you [13:35] next to TSA ;) [13:35] <4JC - psloz.com> 12Twilight Princess is definately something new. It's something new for the world of Zelda. It's going to be the new extreme for the Zelda universe. It's typical that Nintendo doesn't want to show any new info. No game company would. What's the point of making a game if you are going to just spoil it for everyone? I should know. I'm making my own Zelda fan game. I know exactly how Nintendo feels with all [13:35] * LazySaviour (HellsSavio@init-6A1C504D.brig.cable.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:35] never heard of it... [13:35] Wtf [13:35] Thats where all the juice comes from. :) [13:35] OH MY. [13:35] Hazz, don't bother. [13:35] cool [13:35] ... [13:35] quit it [13:35] good point [13:35] <4JC - psloz.com> 12Done [13:35] Then you should leave. :( [13:35] ryebud258, please, go read a magazine or something. [13:35] yea [13:35] tingle better not be in tp at all [13:35] just pick up Nintendo Power or something. [13:35] Shuddup Toad [13:35] im tired of seeing him [13:35] LOL [13:35] No one likes a Tingle. [13:35] :o [13:35] no some people do [13:35] :o [13:35] I like Tingle. [13:35] I like tingle. [13:35] * Trinbadman is now known as Tingle [13:35] I want some of your milkshake Yami. [13:35] I like tingle [13:36] Haha [13:36] how about you all focus on what this is for rather than trying to insult each other? [13:36] * Exadis-NU (exapix@init-2606F85A.ras05.ord01.dial.cogentco.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:36] Tingle is a bit fruity [13:36] Kooloo Limpah! [13:36] Mess FTW [13:36] * ZeldaFan19264 (PJIRC@init-77E9ACBF.nt.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:36] it's the way people are, mess. [13:36] Lol. [13:36] people who like Michael Jackson like Tingle. [13:36] Ouch SNAP [13:36] a bit fruity? [13:36] hehehe [13:36] * ZeldaFan19407 (PJIRC@55C52883.3337247F.22B63F8B.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:36] Ok [13:36] heh, I think you should lemme at 'em ;) [13:36] Very Fruity [13:36] I hope Tingle is in TP. [13:36] Lik, Gay to the Max [13:36] he wont be [13:36] I really do. [13:36] I want some of your milkshake Yami. <-- Doesn't everyone <3 [13:36] He isn't [13:36] Nobody has said anything in awhile [13:36] * ZeldaFan19264 (PJIRC@init-77E9ACBF.nt.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:36] Tingle is like the funny uncle you have when growing up. [13:36] nintendo said tingle wont be n it, unfortunately [13:36] You can't prove that. [13:36] <4Chat Moderator> 12urgh [13:36] what if tingle is midna??? [13:36] I believe Aonuma said in an interview that Tingle won't be in it. [13:36] My uncle > Tingle [13:36] I can [13:36] nuff said [13:37] Lik, Gay to the Max let the speculations begin [13:37] Yami: I think if you weren't so damned hawt, you'd be a commodity on the black market [13:37] I have the issue of nintendo power [13:37] In Tingle land, there's no need for clothes! Now take them off! No no no... slooowly...! (sorry) [13:37] realistic Tingle would took disturbing, though [13:37] heh [13:37] gah, stupid leg [13:37] It's true [13:37] he did [13:37] Realistic Tingle? [13:37] Are you kidding me [13:37] nintendo said tingle wont be n it, unfortunately <-- and Nintendo have always told the truth? [13:37] dabombster, it looks like you're comp is messing up a lot, you want me to take over for now? [13:37] The Return of Navi [13:37] 8) [13:37] Realistic Tingle? <- that's a contradiction. [13:37] realistic tingle! [13:37] <4Link - Zeldacavern.com> 12I believe they are holding Information because, they want people to stay interested in the project, if to much information is released people could decide whether or not to buy it, if there is no information released people will buy it to play it to see what its all about, or the possibility that what if Nintendo is releasing 2 zelda games(for gamecube and/or revolution), and they need to finish [13:37] Hey. Hands of Yami. He's my man meat. [13:37] Why is our text brown? [13:37] they said he wouldn't be in it because he's not popular in the US [13:37] * Asci (abrokenpot@init-F0AE718E.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:37] it's also horrifying [13:37] I have reasons to believe Tingle will be in Phantom Hourglass. [13:37] <4Link - Zeldacavern.com> 12As we dont know alot, its a very good possibility that there is infact a second zelda game. TP could have many good twists involved that cannot be released, as you may know there was originally 3 oracle games, one was dropped because of passwords problems, i dont think its to hard to understand that if they could connect games for LoTR: Third Age, they could easily do it here. Depending whether [13:37] that would be.....freaky [13:37] and as we can see here, thats true [13:37] TSA -- that would be bad [13:37] Not any more ? [13:37] ass [13:37] * ZeldaFan36288 (PJIRC@init-29701C05.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:37] * Fierce-Deity (PJIRC@E4E883F9.48D87F9.30CCD5E.IP) Quit (Quit: Goodbye.) [13:37] * TheTeej-ZSO-ZP was kicked by Mess (Mess) [13:37] tingle's in most games [13:37] This chat room is pretty tight [13:37] well tingle in mm is his most realistic appearance [13:37] :( [13:37] Hahah. [13:37] D: [13:37] Ok, ill cya later [13:38] Can I see this interview where they say he isn't in it? [13:38] so think of that appearance only more detailed *shivers* [13:38] Tingle is something for the Japanese viewers. You know, crazy Japanese culture an' all. Kinda like lolicon... [13:38] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12Hmm, stinks that i was toward the end because my answer is not at all original; though its what i believe. I think Nintendo has not shown us any thing its not only that they are doing it for suspence ( which i think they are) but also to keep the veiwers and the fanboys(girls XP) on their toes, but also i believe that they are still tweaking it, adding little things, like for the revolution fea [13:38] they should bring back zombies! [13:38] Mess you keep getting to them before I do.>> << [13:38] There *is* a second Zelda game: PH [13:38] tingle's in most games <-- 3 games, right? [13:38] * eazyseph (eazyseph@init-844B8EE7.dsl.mindspring.com) has left #zeldaroundtable [13:38] Has Link-Zeldacavern heard PH? [13:38] More than that, Yami [13:38] I really liked the zombies in OoT [13:38] * Mirage (Penguin@init-FD759BB3.leic.cable.ntl.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:38] * ZeldaFan19407 (PJIRC@55C52883.3337247F.22B63F8B.IP) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:38] Way more [13:38] tingle's in most games <-- 3 games, right? Around 5 I would guess, then. [13:38] *sigh* [13:38] He is in about 5 [13:38] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12Not telling us anything for so long isn't some big conspiracy... [13:38] * ZeldaFan36288 (PJIRC@init-29701C05.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has left #zeldaroundtable [13:38] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12Nintendo does several things very well. The first is they're good at coming up with "out of the box" things. [13:38] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12The second is they're good at making a crap load of money off rehashes. [13:38] I liked the zombies as well. Like large head crabs, they were. [13:38] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12The third is they're good at the hype deal. Microsoft dumps millions of dollars into advertising. Nintendo gives you a gigantic flourish, then sits silent, letting people squirm, wishing they knew more. That wishing builds wants. [13:38] * TheTeej-ZSO-ZP (tjalian@init-F9273AE3.lutn.cable.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:38] they gave me the jibblies. I stopped playing for a week after I met them. [13:38] boo >.> [13:38] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12So, Nintendo knows good and well the silence bothers people, leaves them wondering. And that builds a desire to know, a desire to have. [13:38] TSA - It wouldn't be anymore realistic than he was in MM. Just with better graphics. You can't exactly call Twilight Princess "realistic". Just look at all the oddly shaped people. It definitely has some TWW residue left on it in that department. [13:38] Then again, i was like... 7 [13:38] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12When they do release information, the frenzy will be so insane, they don't NEED to spend the millions and millions that other companies use for their media hype, it'll happen on its own. Oh, they're good at what they do... [13:38] You're forgetting the handheld games [13:39] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12VERY good. [13:39] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12Its Nintendo guys, look at how much mystery surrounded the other games before they were released. Nothing is better publicity than keeping quiet and creating an aura of mystery. [13:39] I forget the GBA games. [13:39] I never found them.. memorable. [13:39] * ZeldaFan65586 (PJIRC@init-4279B6DB.bmly.cable.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:39] i feel like hitting my head against the desk [13:39] So umm... Scoot! Are there gonna be zombies in TP? [13:39] * ZeldaFan65586 is now known as Volcanux [13:39] do that please, ryebud258 [13:39] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12I don't know... look at Ocarina of Time. It was one of the most successful Zelda titles ever produced, and the amount of media released was enormous. We speculated about the plot even after the game was released, thanks to all the screenshots! I think they could release more, it's just that there's something about it they don't want us to know until much later. [13:39] redeads? [13:39] http://internal.tbi.net/~max/ztriforce06.htm [13:39] Zombie bunnies, Matticus. [13:39] When you say zombies do you mean redeads? [13:39] Go MN [13:39] Silence is golden, the Triforce is golden too! [13:39] The triforce exists! It's true! [13:39] http://internal.tbi.net/~max/ztriforce06.htm [13:39] Go MN [13:39] hey everyone [13:39] ... [13:39] * Tingle is now known as Trinbadman [13:39] No, I think he meant cuccos [13:39] awesome! Zombie rabbits pwn! [13:39] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12I think the general sentiment that they're trying to build up suspense has more or less hit the nail on the head. I don’t know how many of you have been following Nintendo Power’s monthly Inside Zelda feature, but they’ve been hinting at big and interesting things in all those articles. [13:39] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12I think that Nintendo is just holding back, so they can unleash lots of media on us all at once. Doing it that way builds up far more hype then giving us a constant trickle of info. [13:39] the redeads in tww were jamacain [13:39] I'm back! [13:39] * Trinbadman was kicked by Mess (Mess) [13:39] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Personally, I am grateful. The more info that’s released, the more likely I am to be spoiled, and I don’t want that. [13:39] MN -- maybe that's why they want to hold it back [13:40] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Ultimately, I think the effect they’re going for is to reveal some cool stuff at E3, perhaps the Revolution controller capatibility along with actual game info… but save all the REAL meat of the game for the actual release. [13:40] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Kain brought up an interesting possibility: a second Zelda game. I personally don’t think it’s likely. If you read the Inside Zeld features, you’ll get a glimpse of how much effort and Nintendo resources are really going into the TP development. Another Zelda game on top of all that is not very likely. [13:40] * ZeldaFan36410 (PJIRC@init-3B658839.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:40] * ZeldaFan84785 (PJIRC@init-F8D07D18.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:40] they realised it was some what of a mistake to leak too much info [13:40] * ZeldaFan36410 is now known as Trinbadman [13:40] Hey! [13:40] * Exadis-NU (exapix@init-2606F85A.ras05.ord01.dial.cogentco.com) has left #zeldaroundtable [13:40] Tingle in TP. Plus we have already seena realistic Tingle in MM, only with not so good graphics. [13:40] cool [13:40] Exactly. [13:40] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12ok [13:40] tingle isn't in TP... [13:40] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12If Nintendo is under-promising, over delivering -they're sure doing a bad job. Shigeru Miyamoto said it would be "perfect" and Eiji Aonuma said it would be the best "Zelda Game". How's that for under-promising? [13:40] * ZeldaFan84785 (PJIRC@init-F8D07D18.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:41] Thats what delays are for. [13:41] TSA -- haha, good point :P [13:41] The must have delayed to put in Tingle. [13:41] Tingle is a werewolf, who bites Link making him a werewolf too. [13:41] to "perfect" the game, if you will. [13:41] true dat [13:41] Ah... Delays... [13:41] lol [13:41] They make me feel good in the pants region... [13:41] lol trin [13:41] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Good point, TSA. There's an odd contradiction there. They've been hypgin it like mad in the interviews and stuff they HAVE been releasing... [13:41] or to hype it enough to sell, but i'd imagine TP will be great [13:41] :o [13:41] * Exadis-NU (exapix@init-2606F85A.ras05.ord01.dial.cogentco.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:41] Whoa whoa whoa... [13:41] actually, Tingle might be contradictory to TP's intended "darker" nature [13:41] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12but they're hardly releasing anything at all, so it defeats the purpose. [13:41] * Exadis-NU (exapix@init-2606F85A.ras05.ord01.dial.cogentco.com) has left #zeldaroundtable [13:41] but hey if its not then i think nintendo hq will be raided by many a zelda fan [13:41] Hi volcanux [13:41] I want to address something here... [13:41] tingle is a darker thing. [13:41] Mess, why'd you kick me earlier? That's cold, dude. Real cold. [13:41] ...what [13:41] * Link_of_Hyrule (PJIRC@init-F8D07D18.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [13:41] Where are you getting MULTIPLE delays? [13:41] There's always something comical and light in dark games. [13:41] 35 year old man in tights. [13:41] RE4 anyone? [13:41] * ZeldaFan47529 (PJIRC@init-F8D07D18.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:41] There's only been 1 real delay. [13:41] Because I can [13:42] How much darker can it get? [13:42] * ZeldaFan47529 is now known as Link_of_Hyrule [13:42] Isn't it over-promising and under-delivering? [13:42] who said there were multiple delays? [13:42] Don't abuse it then. [13:42] He is a sick and twisted human being. [13:42] what was comical in RE4? [13:42] * ZeldaFan71715 (zuchat@init-F9C2EEEF.access.ripnet.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:42] Nintendo said way back when in 2004 that they was give a RELEASE date around May. Not that it would be released then. [13:42] yes one delay with no specific length [13:42] Dark humour. [13:42] 2005* [13:42] You know what happened when my cousin heard about the delay? He jumped off a building. [13:42] Death and blood and guts - They ammuse me. [13:42] Maybe not sick and twisted, but still. [13:42] Little tidbits you might find funny. [13:42] theres only been 1 delay [13:42] PROOF that games cause violence. [13:42] Exactly. [13:42] lol that reminds me how long did you guys think coming soon was after the first tp trailer? [13:42] Easter eggs, the like. [13:42] that was in november [13:42] Yami is correct, of course [13:42] * ZeldaFan04875 (PJIRC@init-E5AA177C.mpls.qwest.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:42] lmao [13:42] LOL! [13:42] Thank you, and good night. [13:42] 2 [13:42] * ZeldaFan04875 is now known as __T__ [13:42] TP may end up darker... [13:42] I'm sick of people saying there's more than one. [13:43] * ZeldaFan21483 (PJIRC@init-7E2AFD4C.prov.east.verizon.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:43] rest of the 'dates' were speculation# [13:43] * eazyseph (eazyseph@init-844B8EE7.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:43] Hey, BTW, here's a TP theory [13:43] but even the darkest of Zelda games (MM, anyone?) lightens that darkness with intermittent funny and light [13:43] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12On the surface it does, l-o-s, but think about the way of it all. They're making all these huge promises, gigantic talk, and all that, yet they show us almost nothing. [13:43] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12It goes perfectly with what I said. Not only are they not telling us anything, but they're saying how amazing it all is, all the time. That's enough to drive people mad with materialistic desire. [13:43] coming soon to nintendo=3+ years later [13:43] * eazyseph (eazyseph@init-844B8EE7.dsl.mindspring.com) has left #zeldaroundtable [13:43] Dark Zelda? [13:43] <4F3 - htloz.net> 12Does anyone else find it possible that something has actually gone wrong in development? This is an unusally long pause, even for Nintendo. [13:43] LoS - That's where Tingle comes in. [13:43] * Dark (Darkness@init-844B8EE7.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:43] MM gave me nightmares. [13:43] I doubt it f3... [13:43] heh [13:43] to tell you the truth, when the first TP trailers came, I was a little skeptical of the wolf mechanics, it looked a lot like a normal hack n' slash. My guess is that nintendo delayed it to improve things like this, and they didn't have a marketing strategy planned becuase they were'nt expecting the delay. [13:43] * ZeldaFan71715 (zuchat@init-F9C2EEEF.access.ripnet.com) Quit (Quit: ZeldaFan71715) [13:43] mostly about Tingle. And his maps. *shudder* [13:43] TP will most likely not be turned into two games, and instead the moment you insert into the revolution you get new features like sword play [13:44] The main reason of the recent delay, is to put in Revo-exclusive features. [13:44] is MM available 4 gamecube? [13:44] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12We haven't heard from Eiji in a few months. Maybe something happened to him... [13:44] They're giving the wolf a SWORD. Makes sense. [13:44] Yes [13:44] (not.) [13:44] * ZeldaFan12101 (PJIRC@init-C158E568.clv.wideopenwest.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:44] TSA doesn't like Eiji. [13:44] The thing with Nintedo, we don't know what they will pull. [13:44] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12If I remember correctly, they promised perfection with Wind Waker as well ... and Oot ... and even Majora ... [13:44] *hides gun* nope, nothing happened to him. [13:44] You know we saw those SW2k video, and then we see those 2 other mysterious screenshots which weirdly look like TP, then WW came out. Maybe WW was actually made to dampen the fans, if you will, and then when TP actually came out, the fans would be even more excited, because they're getting what they thought wouldn't happen [13:44] They're unpredictable. Which is a good thing, of course for Nintendo :) [13:44] *whistles nonchalantly* [13:44] how can a game be perfecet? [13:44] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12I may be placing too much trust in NP's inside Zelda features - in fact, I definitely am - but those have not given any hint of any problems, just of painful, drawn out crunch times. [13:44] Magic [13:45] and fury that could be the case, though i guess the only way to know for sure is if we get any news from E3 about TP [13:45] perfecet? no game can be, cause that word doesn't exist. [13:45] TWW didn't "dampen" me. [13:45] which im sure we will [13:45] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12and Aonuma is definitely schedulaed to appear at E3, so he should be fine [13:45] Triforce Magic, infact [13:45] The Only Game on the Shelf That Doesn't Lick Mah Balls is perfection in a game. [13:45] This sucks I'm out. [13:45] * IceMan (PJIRC@init-DA2E584A.mad.east.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:45] I'm talking about general consensus [13:45] I thought everyone already just assumed that. [13:45] Zelda Legends is a great site. It has so many good articles. [13:45] Ah. [13:45] I'd imagine "perfect" implies "nothing wrong with it, and it's damn good" [13:45] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12To add on to what Fury 3 said, I don't think it's that long of a pause. [13:45] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Anybody recall the massive delays Perfect Dark had? I remember promises of Game Boy Camera functionality, then they delayed it even more just to cut that feature out. Maybe the same deal is happening with this supposed Revolution remote compatability... [13:45] NM -- what is it like to have a brown nose? j/k [13:45] Similar to how I'd describe RE4 [13:45] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Just mere speculation, of course, though. [13:45] its not perfect, but there are no real flaws [13:45] RE4 was pretty sweet, my cousin let me play it [13:45] I remember the PD delays :P [13:45] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12Capn's right. The development pause has not really been all that long. It has been a while, yes, but it's not beyond Nintendo to take forever. I very much doubt that something has "gone wrong." [13:45] They had to cut the GBC thing [13:46] Nintendo made them [13:46] ha [13:46] haha [13:46] where is this E3 u talk about? [13:46] ya [13:46] LA, i think [13:46] LA [13:46] LA. [13:46] Incase killing friends ingame inspired people to act it out in real life. [13:46] Yaay :) [13:46] o [13:46] I really liked the limited inventory and addon feature they introduced to buy for weapons [13:46] Los ANgeles?!?!?! [13:46] jep! [13:46] <@Mess> I'd imagine "perfect" implies "nothing wrong with it, and it's damn good" <-- perfection is nothing but a mere opinion ;) [13:46] * ZeldaFan48109 (zuchat@init-3C805B14.clsp.qwest.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:46] * Toad064 (Toad064@init-FAD48B2A.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) Quit (Quit: Toad064) [13:46] Was in Atlanta back before OoT was released [13:46] YES I LIVE IN LA [13:46] plus the inside zelda features say the game is coming along nicely [13:46] no wonder why i haven't heard about it [13:46] I really would have liked killing my mates :P [13:46] ... [13:46] Dark [13:46] but it was freakin annoying to always have to protect that stupid idiot girl [13:46] which is why i have it in "..." [13:46] * ZeldaFan48109 (zuchat@init-3C805B14.clsp.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: ZeldaFan48109) [13:46] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12I don't know if I'm being too trusting or what, but in my opinion, no matter what the causes of the delays are, they should be able to just do what they have to do. [13:46] Dark, you need to be in the industry to attend [13:46] * Leinator-EDN is now known as Leinator [13:46] Don't say that on this channel Nictel! [13:47] you can't just wait up and say "ticket please" [13:47] Jack Thompson is watching! [13:47] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12I'm willing to place my trust in them, hoping that they will do whatever can to produce the best game they can, whatever that requires. [13:47] Of a member of the press, which is how most of us webmasters who are going are going to get in [13:47] * Rilian|away (rilian@rilian.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:47] You can't get in. People dressed up as giant pokemon will beat you if you try to sneak in if your not in the industry or a writer of a popular webcomic, for some reason. [13:47] I would laugh if Jack Thompson went to E3. [13:47] Rilian [13:47] he wouldnt be let in [13:47] Why not? [13:47] So [13:47] Hey, why the fuck DO PA get in, anywya? [13:47] Wise Link -- it's not like they could say 'Well, actually, it's sucking quite hard right now. The animation sucks and we keep getting opcode errors when turning into Wolf Link' [13:47] heheh :P I'm Dutch, Jack Thompson can be Big Brother all he want [13:47] hi Dark [13:47] E3 is in Los Angeles, right? [13:47] i wish nintendo would give us a solid release date 4 TP.... [13:47] * __T__ (PJIRC@init-E5AA177C.mpls.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:47] * Trinbadman was kicked by crazysjd89 (crazysjd89) [13:47] PA, like Penny Arcade? [13:47] Yup [13:47] Because Penny Arcade have many a' followers. [13:47] imma try and go [13:47] Gabe and Tycho.. they have their links. [13:47] they have PAX, don't they [13:48] * ZeldaFan41081 (PJIRC@init-3B658839.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:48] Yup. [13:48] Dark: You won't get in, trust me [13:48] I hav a 30% chance ill go [13:48] * ZeldaFan41081 is now known as Trinbadman [13:48] James [13:48] They aklso have a huge audience. PA = press [13:48] because that's just a dumb question, they get in because they have one of the most prominent webcomics in the industry [13:48] They've been endorsed and sponsored by many companies. [13:48] Meanness! [13:48] I have connections [13:48] anyone read that article on the tp delays on exploding deku nut that was hilarious [13:48] press audience, actually [13:48] :o [13:48] plus they provide a pretty good set of updates and opinions on the gaming industry [13:48] My friend has an invitation [13:48] No, not those connections, Dark. [13:48] 0% chance I'm making it in. :( [13:48] You do know they were employed for a series of Splinter Cell comics. [13:48] * Epyon (epyoncusto@7599AEC3.609A1B25.75381BDE.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:48] Maybe so, but either way, avoid harsh profanity. [13:48] <4The Real Link - Nintendo-Universe.com> 12With the talk of Revolution features, they may be adding some little tweaks to the graphics or even completely overhauling them for the Revolution. Just a thought that came to my mind before, doubt it is the case. [13:48] im leaving this sucks [13:48] * ryebud258 (PJIRC@init-B95C52BE.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:48] I seriously think that PA is one of the best gaming news sites on the web [13:48] No way I can skip an entire week of school. [13:48] My friend has an invitation and he might not go [13:49] So why don't, say, ZL get in? They have a big audience... though nowhere near PA's, but still [13:49] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Hrmm... here's some food for thought: the Revolution is not that much stronger than the Gamecube, but has a higher polygon count and some other upgrades. Perhaps TP was too much for the Gamecube, so they expanded it into the Revolution. [13:49] /join #zrtwebmasters [13:49] Might not? [13:49] For what reason? [13:49] It is one of the best gaming news sites if you have a large vocabulary [13:49] So, hes thinkin about giving me his invitation [13:49] Does he have a mental handicap? [13:49] * ZeldaFan12101 (PJIRC@init-C158E568.clv.wideopenwest.com) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:49] You all do realise that now that everybody is here there are NO MODS to prevent spamming? Attack the forums :-P [13:49] I honestly doubt what MN said to be true. [13:49] o-o [13:49] no, TP is still coming out for the GameCube [13:49] nictel, which forums? [13:49] They promissed it would definately be out on GC [13:49] i'm watching Zu atm [13:49] my friend just doesnt wanna miss school [13:49] It will just have exclusive features. [13:49] it's because PA has links and longevity in the gaming industry [13:49] pretty cool idea goldeneagle [13:49] Leinator is taking over for Dabombster, who is experiencing technical difficulties [13:49] Just a consideration, TJ. :P [13:49] All of them James [13:49] they practically are best friends with Bungie HQ in washington [13:49] Just like playing a GBC game in a GBA, ala OOA/OOS [13:49] ;) [13:49] It's more then likely to have a bit of code to say if it's on the Revolution, then add extra polygons [13:50] is it me or did i hear that TP would have revolution functions which aren't to what people expect with the sword and all. though i could be wrong i guess [13:50] ow Well except ZU then [13:50] that's possible. [13:50] ...well, nictel, the webmasters aren't the only mods at the forums [13:50] * Dabombster (PJIRC@init-C1D2596E.slkc.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:50] ...dummy [13:50] once again, Nintendo said it won't be on the Revolution. [13:50] I know just figured all the mods would be here as well [13:50] <_< [13:50] no name calling [13:50] Like Jimberly. He's a super duper mod! [13:50] * Mak (PJIRC@init-21C8A869.ipt.aol.com) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:50] i still think tp is coming out on gcn but i wouldnt mind a revolution version coming with it... [13:50] TP will be released for the Gamecube, as originally planned. [13:50] ... [13:50] the Revo is backwards compatible. [13:50] * ZeldaFan81257 (PJIRC@init-E5AA177C.mpls.qwest.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:50] IT wouldn't seem like a good idea to switch it to Revolution. OR atleast not without telling people of this. If they did that, everyone would be ready for it to be on Gamecube and then when it comes on Revoltuino,m they'd get angry. [13:50] yeah, I'm sure mostly everyone here is buying a Revo anyway :P [13:50] You can play your GCN games on it. [13:50] * ZeldaFan81257 is now known as __T__ [13:50] I don't really mind will get a Rev anyway [13:50] * eazyseph (eazyseph@init-844B8EE7.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:50] but will have more features on Rev [13:51] * Rilian|away yeyhoorays eazyseph around a bit with a large trout [13:51] 10[12:50] Leinator: 01to tell you the truth, when the first TP trailers came, I was a little skeptical of the wolf mechanics, it looked a lot like a normal hack n' slash. My guess is that nintendo delayed it to improve things like this, and they didn't have a marketing strategy planned becuase they were'nt expecting the delay. [13:51] Miyamoto has said it will have rev features! [13:51] I think TP will be on the gamecube but when played on the revolution you get new controller functionality [13:51] hey for a graphical upgrade it would be nice [13:51] It's still going to be playable on the Rev with extra functionality, for the controller at least. [13:51] I imagine that they will outfit it with special Rev compatible features though [13:51] It will be like playing OOA on the GBA. [13:51] METROID PRIME 3 period [13:51] YOu can't rule out polygon enhancement. [13:51] hehehe [13:51] Rilian [13:51] * Damian (no@huntinia.freedomsnet.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:51] yup [13:51] Damian! [13:51] * Rilian|away yeyhoorays Damian around a bit with a large trout [13:51] TP is for Gamecube, but if you play on the Revolution there are some newer features in some aspects. (I read that somewhere) [13:51] Hehe, hello [13:51] Correct. [13:51] Which is what I have been saying for the past 5 mins. [13:51] This looks like a nice channel [13:51] <.< [13:51] Graphical upgrade might not be feasible, just more polys [13:51] YOu can't rule out polygon enhancement. <- it's like penis enlargement, only even dumber. [13:51] yes but that wouldnt be a lie with two versions [13:51] i very doubt if TP had rev funtions if it would have better graphics, remember what's not what Nintendo is about they're about games! [13:51] You can use the controller thingy as a real sword irl [13:51] Yes Yami, but alas, you are not loved. [13:51] better graphics mean new models with new textures [13:52] which would take a long time to do [13:52] I like this channel, Unlike DSmeet the OPs listen to me..:) [13:52] hey [13:52] to add more polygons to models, and also textures [13:52] nintendo has had a long time to do it [13:52] DSmeet is usefull [13:52] i know from experience [13:52] everybody wait [13:52] So about Zoras. [13:52] thing is [13:52] Graphics of thwe game are the very last thing I'm worried about. [13:52] lol [13:52] Stop talking for a second! [13:52] 10[12:50] Leinator: 01to tell you the truth, when the first TP trailers came, I was a little skeptical of the wolf mechanics, it looked a lot like a normal hack n' slash. My guess is that nintendo delayed it to improve things like this, and they didn't have a marketing strategy planned becuase they were'nt expecting the delay.  [13:52] Turning into Ritos and all. [13:52] GUYS [13:52] * MNGoldenEagle was kicked by Mess (Mess) [13:52] * Mess was kicked by BlackMage (BlackMage) [13:52] ? [13:52] you did that twice now, mn. Don't use color. [13:52] YOu can't rule out polygon enhancement. <- it's like penis enlargement, only even dumber. <-- ...huh? [13:52] * MNGoldenEagle (MNGoldenEa@init-C537ACBF.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:52] The webmasters stopped talking [13:53] ... [13:53] * Mess (Mess@init-C770EFD2.buf.adelphia.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:53] they're already adding revo functionality. If they add new textures and new models too, it's practically a new game, minus story [13:53] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12wow [13:53] * Epyon (epyoncusto@7599AEC3.609A1B25.75381BDE.IP) Quit (Quit: ) [13:53] >_> What was that for? [13:53] i don't think all of the Zoras changed. [13:53] Like I said [13:53] Yeah [13:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12Question 3 [13:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12nEagle> [12:50] Leinator: to tell you the truth, when the first TP trailers came, I was a little skeptical of the wolf mechanics, it looked a lot like a normal hack n' slash. My guess is that nintendo delayed it to improve things like this, and they didn't have a marketing strategy planned becuase they were'nt expecting the delay. [13:53] mistake [13:53] * ZeldaFan61736 (PJIRC@55C52883.3337247F.22B63F8B.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:53] THEY HATE ZSO [13:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12oops [13:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12damnit [13:53] They had to get the active sex scene between link and zelda out of the game [13:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12XD [13:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12hold on [13:53] ... [13:53] * ZeldaFan61736 is now known as Doh [13:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12Okay [13:53] i doubt that tp has a graphical update for revolution its just something im not ruling out at this point [13:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12the *real* [13:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12question 3 [13:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12From the sounds of things, the music in Twilight Princess will finally be [13:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12orchestrated, a first for the Zelda series. Orchestrated music is generally considered a [13:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12very good thing, but many people have expressed worry - after all, this is a change, and [13:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12will undoubtedly have an effect on the character of the music... and not all change is good [13:53] op me, i promise i'll kick the stupid [13:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12change. What are your views? [13:53] OHHHH GOOD QUESTION [13:54] If I wanted to see Link and Zelda having sex, I'd read my vast amounts of Zelda hentai comics, thank you very much. [13:54] NO [13:54] AGH [13:54] Orchestrated owns [13:54] James, if you ask to be an opp you never will be one :P [13:54] Ow! Brain hurting. [13:54] end of story [13:54] * Kokiri sets mode: +o James [13:54] ONLY THE CUTSCENES HAVE ORCHASTRATED MUSIC. [13:54] <4Chat Moderator> 12our first talker... will be [13:54] i'm confused why I was kicked though [13:54] <4Chat Moderator> 12eh, we'll put TSA up ;) [13:54] THE REST OF THE GAME IS NORMAL MUSIC. [13:54] Where's you hear that, Twilight_Prince? [13:54] james ftw [13:54] Will this change our beloved Zelda tunes? [13:54] Mabye. But probably all of it will. [13:54] mess got kicked? [13:54] thanks scoot [13:54] From Nintendo.. [13:54] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12We got into a heated debate about this at IGN... [13:54] I say orchestrated music FTW [13:54] No, they'll just be better quality... [13:54] Where? [13:54] yeah was like auto after my kick [13:54] it's too bad the webmasters can't hearme -_- [13:54] Ok, take this [13:54] can't they? [13:54] Anyone kno if theres gonna be a DS Zelda game? [13:55] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Apparently people don't get what a MIDI is, and people were arguing the soundtrack needs to be orchestrated, not MIDI [13:55] I don't remember exactly, it might have been NP or nintendo.com [13:55] orchestrated is much better more powerful and moving [13:55] listen to the opening thing of ocarina of time [13:55] There is seph. [13:55] Phantom Hourglass. [13:55] Twilight_Prince is telling the truth. [13:55] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I don't care what format the music is in... [13:55] I think it was in one of the NP interviews. [13:55] Phantom Hourglass? [13:55] then listen to this hyrule symphony version of the title [13:55] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Or how it is made... [13:55] Yes. [13:55] Is it Multiplayer? [13:55] i agree with TSA, if the music is good who cares!? [13:55] I'm not sure. [13:55] Well the difference is [13:55] Can u PM me a link, plz [13:55] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12As long as it can be as dynamic as it has been in previous games (like adding more instruments and speeding up tempo as enemies approach)... [13:55] Sure. [13:55] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12and it sounds GOOD [13:55] indeed [13:55] Hold on. [13:55] exactly [13:55] One is made on a computer, the other is made with real instruments... [13:55] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Like the Final Fantasy VII AC soundtrack :done [13:55] WINDMILL SONG ANYONE [13:55] * GDwarf (chatzilla@init-650EADB3.tor.uniserve.ca) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:55] i still hum to alttp music and thats on snes [13:55] Ever heard the Metroid music in orchestrated? that is just beautiful [13:56] anyone hear of this play-symphony [13:56] Nictel -- You mean it isn't orchestrated? damn [13:56] yeah FF7AC music is great, i should be getting that on monday when its out over here but anyway back onto topic [13:56] so whatever tp music is like its sure to be great [13:56] yes I actually have some songs of play symphony on my computer [13:56] actually, Forest Temple music from OoT wasn't bad at all.... [13:57] although ive heard some orchestrated zelda music and it was really cool [13:57] * NM87 (PJIRC@init-AA3511E2.ny325.east.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [13:57] * ZeldaFan79768 (PJIRC@init-AA3511E2.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [13:57] True [13:57] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12The Hyrule Symphony CD was decent, and that was just orchestral adaptations. Imagine how much better original composed music would be? [13:57] however [13:57] Forest Temple muisc was great. [13:57] Forest Temple music scared me when I was young... [13:57] it is pretty good [13:57] it sounds better orchestrated [13:57] same! and the zombies, and tingle! [13:57] * ZeldaFan13637 (zuchat@init-5C1FE0DB.direcpc.com) Quit (Quit: ZeldaFan13637) [13:57] I went to the VideoGamesLive...the Zelda one was decent enough [13:57] I like the forest temple music, I just hate the temple [13:57] ditto [13:57] the intro is absolutely amazing orchestrated [13:57] lol, yeah [13:57] yup. [13:57] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Zelda soundtracks have, historically, never been that bad. I have a feeling that TP shouldn't be any different. [13:57] damned ghosts. [13:57] so true [13:57] Music wise, the Zelda games have been great. [13:57] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12now [13:57] Eh, for some unknown reason I feared Dododigo's cavern scared me more then the forest temple [13:57] <4F3 - htloz.net> 12Orchestrated scores are great. As long as they don't change their compositions or styles, I really can't foresee it having a negative effect on Zelda in any way. It's just a matter of doing it right, which goes without saying. [13:58] *cough* CDI games. yeah. [13:58] Kind of yes kind of no [13:58] my favorite soundtrack was to Halo [13:58] TP should improve on that formula. [13:58] it was friggin sweet [13:58] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12I like the idea that there is going to be a change for Zelda music, although as long as it's kept with Koji Kondo, all is well for me. Although I'm not very happy about it moving into Orchestarted music as it means it's going to take up far more space on the disc, which could be used for games. [13:58] they've been good, but none have been as memorable since OoT [13:58] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12But as long as it sounds good, and there's not a ton of songs with tons of singing, I'll be happy. [13:58] [18:57] <+Chatbot> Zelda soundtracks have, historically, never been that bad. I have a feeling that TP shouldn't be any different. <-- yeah, but it needs Dream Theater [13:58] Don't mention the CDI games in my presence. [13:58] It causes me to melt. [13:58] Metal Gear + Harry Gregson Williams anyone? :D [13:58] A lot. [13:58] >> << [13:58] Dom -- You rock [13:58] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12I enjoy orchestrated music as much as the next person. I have both orchestrated soundtracks of OoT and MM. But... can orchestrated music really provide the type of drama that TP might need at some points? I don't know, maybe I'm just uncultured. [13:58] Get over it, Dom. Dream Theater sucks. [13:58] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12I just remember how music was utilized in WW. During some parts of the plot, my heart actually beat faster because of the music alone. I just don't know if orchestrated music will have the same effect on me. [13:58] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12And it's possible that I could be proven completely wrong. I certainly hope I am. [13:58] * Kokiri sets mode: +o Mess [13:58] Actually, I loved MM's OST the most. [13:58] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12Orchestrated vs. MIDI ... a mere technicality. All that will change is the sound quality, and it should; the system is better. [13:58] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12Zelda music has been "orchestrated" from day 1, if you define it as consisting of more than one instrument. [13:58] I'm wearing my DT shirt right now! [13:58] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12And to clear things up, about half of the Zelda music wasn't written by Koji Kondo. [13:58] The final battle with Majora is one of my favorite OST songs of all time. [13:58] Well, the orchestration isn't for every song [13:58] Soam I [13:59] <4Chat Moderator> 12<3 [13:59] It's just used to emphasise certain parts [13:59] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12I think it should give the opportunity for darker, or at the very least, more emotional music, which would definitely match the character of the game as we understand it thus far. [13:59] me and Yami are t-shirt linked [13:59] ... [13:59] ...? [13:59] capncornflakes speaks dirty, dirty mouth lies. [13:59] Dom, you do know how homoerotic that sounds. [13:59] Hello? orchestrated not able to provide drama? Barbarians... Never listened to any classical music [13:59] Agreed Nictel [13:59] What do you guys think about VO? I think it should happen only in cutscenes, like the ending of WW. That so begged to have VA it wasn't even funny [13:59] Sounds good to me, Yams. [13:59] <---Nm87 (refresh) [13:59] thats a bad thing? [13:59] seriously [13:59] heh [13:59] orchestrated music IS drama [13:59] <4JC - psloz.com> 12I just want the music to feel right. It doesn't matter if its orchestrated or not. As long as I don't hear beeps when I strike down Ganon, I'm good. [13:59] I dislike VO [13:59] CanpnCornflake owns you. Any thought otherwise should result in brutal demise [14:00] teehee MI. [14:00] Of course, keep to the same Zelda rules [14:00] I think Zelda should feature a soundtrack with all emo bands like My Chemical Romance, Hawthorne Heights, Fall Out Boy and Panic! At the Disco [14:00] Dom is just jealeous that Joe Walsh is single handedly better than every member from DT. [14:00] Link doesn't speak [14:00] * ZeldaFan79768 (PJIRC@init-AA3511E2.ny325.east.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:00] orchestrated music would be nice for important scenes at least [14:00] Invariable poor quality english actors are used in the N. American versions [14:00] Screw you guys. I'm gone. [14:00] * Trinbadman (PJIRC@init-3B658839.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:00] I know CanpnCornflake pwns me. It's this capncornflake I don't know about... [14:00] An Opeth sound track would be nice. [14:00] * Zeldafan68959 (PJIRC@init-A88D193C.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:00] Even if they aren't, I find it doesn't add anything to a game [14:00] just make everybody who does speak in cutscenes have VO. [14:00] who the hell is Jow Walsh? [14:00] I think Zelda should feature a soundtrack with all emo bands like My Chemical Romance, Hawthorne Heights, Fall Out Boy and Panic! At the Disco haha, Capn, Joe Walsh is also wacked out of his mind more than anyone on this planet [14:00] <4Link - Zeldacavern.com> 12I myself prefer windwaker and/or ocarina of time music, to that of the original LoZ games. So id have to say newer music but not the old music [14:00] Mind you, I'm a bit of an enigma, I actually like reading books :P [14:00] indeed [14:00] * SirAuron (zuchat@init-70C2A13D.prem.tmns.net.au) Quit (Quit: SirAuron) [14:00] My Chemical Romance SUCKS [14:00] ? [14:00] Steve -- What about bullet for my valentine? :( [14:01] but it always seems to be the messed up folks that make better music [14:01] Hay people. [14:01] lol [14:01] YO|U lIE JAMESZ [14:01] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12I like the orchastraded music idea, because in my opinion it sounds alot better, and personal. Alot of games, movies, and shows, are swiching to this because it gives a more livley tone that somthing done in a small office by a couple of people, pluce i like they fact they put money into the game as far as little things go. As long as they dont change the over tone, and still keep the same styl [14:01] i thought that should be known [14:01] Voice Overs? [14:01] My Chemical Romance is alright, they just make some really bad songs [14:01] for everyone but Link. [14:01] I agree with James. [14:01] why are we talking about music? [14:01] The point was that ALL those groups suck arse. Preferably, the same arse. [14:01] ;-) [14:01] they have some stuff that I like [14:01] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12The music as it was before was nearly what is called "orchestrated," as has been said. The only real difference was that it was synth, and not the real deal. Making the music sound more real cannot be a bad thing, in my opinion. [14:01] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12Not all change is good, but no change is bad. [14:01] Kifika! :-D [14:01] I hate My Chemical Romance. [14:01] My Chemical Romance SUCKS Half the time, when somebody is high on acid, music comes out so much better [14:01] * Rilian|away is now known as Rilian|arbiter|coding [14:01] No voice for Link, but for everyone else. [14:01] But the manga have Link speaking. [14:01] Voice? No keep them silent [14:01] MCR is about as good as a run over pancake. [14:01] why the bold, TSA? [14:01] yes voice acting would be great minus link like tsa said of course [14:01] He uses profanity. [14:01] Yaay, TSA agrees with me! :) [14:01] manga? You have talking comics now? [14:01] We heard you the first time TSA... [14:01] TSA, I don't really like VO in games, it never seems to work well [14:01] You'd still eat it, Yams. [14:01] Probably to get people's attention. [14:02] TP should have any voice over imo [14:02] Yami MCR is about as good as a run over pancake. <--yami ftw [14:02] probably :P [14:02] lol [14:02] haha [14:02] bye all [14:02] I like my flat pancakes... [14:02] Who wants to see a video i made last yea, which includes link...:) [14:02] As I just said, inevitably they hire horrible, horrible actors [14:02] * SteveTheQueen likes pancakes :( [14:02] bye [14:02] so apparently MCR is delicious! [14:02] Gobble it sloooooow Yami..... Jus' like that.... [14:02] Can someone define voice-over? [14:02] * Twilight-Prince (PJIRC@init-CEDAAE4.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Quit: Goodbye.) [14:02] * ZeldaFan55567 (PJIRC@init-6660F78D.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:02] Voice over [14:02] whoa [14:02] Probably to satify his ego. Heheh. Just kidding. ^_^ [14:02] O.o [14:02] * ZeldaFan23094 (PJIRC@init-CEDAAE4.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:02] a red line [14:02] oops [14:02] for example an anime or something. [14:02] Voice over, as in, voices for the characters [14:02] where it is dubbed. [14:02] ... [14:02] * ZeldaFan23094 is now known as Twilight-Prince [14:02] Zelinxia Having actors do voices for characters. [14:02] * Rilian|arbiter|coding (rilian@rilian.net) has left #zeldaroundtable [14:02] another one! [14:02] Ack [14:02] <4Chat Moderator> 12wtf.. hold on [14:02] Now, for Zelda, I would say no. [14:02] TSA: you probably hit ctrl-something [14:02] I make a comment relevent to this event and everyone just starts talking shit. [14:02] Zelinxia: It's when, instead of, or in addition to, text being shown, the characters also have actors reading their lines [14:02] I forgot what does that in chat [14:03] the thin red line is back [14:03] Scoot! What makes the red line in chat? [14:03] Hey, I have a question. [14:03] I have an important question [14:03] after every time you say something? [14:03] red line? [14:03] But if they do put some VA in, there should be an option to switch between VA and no-VA [14:03] ok... [14:03] prey tell [14:03] Guys maybe it is a good idea to test this chat thing first in the future? [14:03] no actors please [14:03] IMPORTANT question, TSA? [14:03] Do tell. [14:03] You all ready???? [14:03] yeah, you can insert a line divider in chat [14:03] ooooh [14:03] yes [14:03] Have at it. [14:03] Who lives in a Pineapple under the sea? [14:03] * Mess is ready [14:03] I can't wait for that... [14:03] goood point TSA [14:03] IMPORTANT~! [14:03] me [14:03] VERY good point [14:03] Spongebob Squarepants? [14:03] SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS [14:03] I WIN!! [14:03] SPONGE BOB!?! [14:03] Ehum. [14:03] Bobsquare Spongepants. [14:03] Scoot! What makes the red line in chat? <-- ctrl + L in mIRC [14:03] Ctrl+L = line [14:03] SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS! [14:03] noooooo me [14:03] god i hate spongebob [14:03] BOB THE BULIDER > SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS [14:03] hahaha... [14:04] ;_; [14:04] Seriously [14:04] Bob the builder sold out [14:04] yeah, that's probably what happened [14:04] * ZeldaFan64883 (PJIRC@init-E8443FFC.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:04] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12I think that having the music in this format will hopefully give more of a regal feeling to the gameplay and create more atmosphere. The music of the games has always been one of my favourite aspects of the Zelda games and I personally can't wait to hear the soundtrack. I know it will bring a smile to my face when I hear the Zelda theme song for the firs time while playing Twilight P [14:04] he may hate you! haha joking [14:04] ...it was Navi, right? [14:04] * ZeldaFan31678 (PJIRC@init-8671860E.ipt.aol.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:04] LETS GET ON TOPIC PEOPLE [14:04] That's why we couldn't find her? [14:04] alas, doody- er, duty calls [14:04] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12I have had some people express worry about this, and I could understand their reasons. Essentially, they felt that the charm of video game music came from it’s simplicity. It’s easier for a simple piece of music to make a large impression on you, and to stick with you longer, then it is for a sweeping orchestra to do it. [14:04] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Compare the music from older games, like Mario, to the sweeping orchestra of, say, Shadow fo the Collosus… Collossus had great music, but it can’t stick in your head. [14:04] brb =) [14:04] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Ultimately though, I think that going to orchestra is an improvement… as long as Koji Kondo is very careful to keep the Zelda atmosphere, and avoid overdoing it. [14:04] My favourite childhood hero is the one that touches little kids. You may know him as Santa. [14:04] Imagine a hip hop band comprising of Navi, Tingle and Epona. [14:04] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12And there is also some confusion as to what exactly Nintendo means when they say orchestrated. Do they just mean higher quality music, with real instruments? Are they going to have an actual orchestra? Something else? I am inclined to think it’s just going to be higher quality music with real instruments, but maybe someone could clear that up? It seems as if most of you are just sayin [14:04] * __T__ (PJIRC@init-E5AA177C.mpls.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:04] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12;done [14:04] DOM: there is no topic [14:04] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Sweeping orchestea like that found in Shadow of the Collosus is great, but not fit for the Zelda series, in my opinion. [14:04] geez [14:04] LoS, you can have orchestrated music that catches in your head, it's just a bit harder [14:04] overall the music should stick in your head [14:04] * ZeldaFan64883 is now known as Twilight [14:05] A strong melody is required [14:05] Yah. [14:05] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12I feel that the orchestrated soundtrack will only enrich the music. Like capncornflake said, [14:05] Yami, what exactly would you propose a horse and a three in fairy play? [14:05] LETS GET A TOPIC GOING PEOPLE [14:05] * Twilight is now known as Twilight_ [14:05] LoS the door is there ---> [14:05] I've never really had orchestrated music catch in my head ;) [14:05] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12Hyrule Sympthony was decent. One of my personal favourites is the Sound and Drama soundtrack [14:05] * Twilight_ is now known as Twilight_Hero [14:05] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12for LttP. I don't see how orchestration could actually change the excellent Zelda melodies, [14:05] but It would be intereting, heh [14:05] Dom: don't please :( it's not helping [14:05] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12unless Nintendo purposely decided to change the music style. DONE [14:05] * Doh (PJIRC@55C52883.3337247F.22B63F8B.IP) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:05] zomg [14:05] Yami, what exactly would you propose a horse and a three in fairy play? <-- west coast rap. haha. [14:05] sup twilight hero [14:05] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Hrmm... to be honest, I like the dynamic form of MIDI and think that, when the wavetables are made properly, it can be just as powerful and effective as other formats. Sometimes I even prefer the MIDI version over the Orchestrated version. [14:05] WL yt? [14:05] is that twilight hero from ZP? [14:05] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12But then again, you usually get nicer stuff with orchestration, and if you have the room and the dynamics you need, then orchestrated music is certainly the way to go. [14:05] yup [14:05] yes [14:05] awesome! [14:05] hi! [14:05] hi [14:05] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Honestly it is just going to make for a richer sound game and increase the "into-the-game" feeling. Otherwise it's nintend0, it's zelda, it's music. It works. [14:06] The part of the music that you remember is the melody, synth music is only melody, so you remember it, if the orchestrated stuff had a good, strong melody, you'd remember it [14:06] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12As a former Zelda Music member and a firm beleiver that Koji Kondo is a genious, I think this is an important subject to touch on, but not one that will really effect the series. [14:06] do u guess think midna is Zelda? [14:06] That's right [14:06] Zelda should have some MGS style music. And a tuxedo. and a bandana :D [14:06] Heck, I've been humming the music from last year's E3 trailer forever [14:06] * ZeldaFan67614 (PJIRC@init-E5AA177C.mpls.qwest.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:06] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12The MIDI was very well programmed in previous games and at times it sounded almost orchestrated. I personally think it won't matter, they sound quite similar and I don't mind it either way in terms of sound. The problem is that orchestrated will probably take up more disk space. [14:06] <4The Real Link - Nintendo-Universe.com> 12I think the change is for the best. Zelda music has always rocked and will continue to no matter in what form they go with. As long as they keep it true to series, I know most Zelda fans and I will love it. [14:06] * ZeldaFan67614 is now known as __T__ [14:06] no [14:06] Maybe I'm just old-fashioned or something ;) [14:06] T_H, I don't see how, what with Zelda being Zelda, even while in the TR [14:06] i think midna is the twilight princess, or the master sword [14:06] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12so weigh that with the fact that it probably won't sound much different anyway, and my opinion is that it should just stay midi. [14:06] midna is tingle![/sarcasm] [14:06] gah, i really need to read this later [14:06] Link should jus' be a god damn ninja, bizatch. [14:06] My brain is an older model. Needs an upgrade. [14:06] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12done [14:06] Or, maybe Navi [14:06] you never know. [14:07] <4TS - multiftp.free.fr/z64> 12Personally, I've always been a fan of the music Nintendo implements into their games. However, be the console NES, SNES, N64, or Gamecube, the music has always suited the game perfectly, and I expect the same for Twilight Princess. [14:07] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12"orchestrated" is a technicality of digital format ... LttP through today had "orchestrated" music represented in a musical instrument digital interface - MIDI [14:07] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12And now it will be in a straight pcm format. It's not the huge change you may think it is; most people won't be able to tell a difference at all. [14:07] Midna is a play on the word admin [14:07] that would be weird if midna was a sword... [14:07] The game is delayed because the removed Midna from the game [14:07] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12Half of Smash Bros Melee is "orhcestrated", and half is MIDI ... I'll pay anyone in this room $10 if they can tell me which tracks are which. [14:07] coincidence, or something more? [14:07] no they didnt [14:07] midna is still in it [14:07] I know! [14:07] haha [14:07] midna is now the druggy round the corner [14:07] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12I think that they only way it could be bad for the series is if they over used it. [14:07] $10 please! [14:07] lol [14:08] PAY UP! [14:08] Ice - Is that cash or check? [14:08] Midna is currently playing the role of "In my pants". [14:08] they delayed it because the wolf when it moved didnt look right and many other reasons too [14:08] give her 100 rupees and she'll give you hot coffee [14:08] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Of course, I was secretly hoping that Nintendo would go the Digital Devil Saga route in terms of soundtrack. [14:08] which in turn you give to zelda to get the triforce [14:08] XD Teej. [14:08] * LazySaviour was kicked by Mess (Mess) [14:08] Kifka, true, however, Nintendo has said that they won't do that, which is good [14:08] they delayed it because the wolf when it moved didnt look right and many other reasons too <-- the main reason is Revo features. Duh. [14:08] Do you really want that odd little thing in your pants? Would tings even fit? [14:08] * LazySaviour (HellsSavio@init-6A1C504D.brig.cable.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:08] : ( [14:08] well midna wasnt on wolf link in the newest pic... [14:08] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I think there should be lyrics in one of the songs in Twilight Princess. It would be really cool. I like remixes with lyrics on OCR, and I like the song on Re-Arranged with lyrics (Lon Lon Ranch). NO MORE. [14:08] No sexual innuendo, eh? [14:08] but im sure she is still in it [14:08] Eh, no Lyrics [14:08] nore manipulating "bad" words so you can say them [14:08] Unless it's the Title music [14:08] LS -- spoil sport :( [14:08] no vocals. [14:08] : ( [14:09] what the hell lyrics? Yes let's have Link rap! [14:09] lyrics, only if it's humming or something. No words. [14:09] Re-Arranged Epona made me cringe at first... [14:09] GOOD GOD NO! [14:09] eh lyrics dont seem to suit zelda imo [14:09] They have a Link rap commercial. [14:09] NO RAP!! [14:09] I think it was for LTTP. [14:09] that was nice [14:09] Title music with lyrics I could like, but not battle music, unless it's like 'Choir 'ahs'' or some such [14:09] for laughs [14:09] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12I very much hope that we never see real lyrics in any of the Zlda games. I just don't see it fitting well at all. [14:09] I'm not sure about lyrics, in all honesty [14:09] i know it was delayed mostly for the rev. features i was just naming a tiny problem they faced during the way [14:09] * ZeldaFan88902 (PJIRC@init-21C8A869.ipt.aol.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:09] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12The closest we could get and still have it work is something like Malon's "singing" in OoT... [14:09] I'd like some Chaos Legion styled music. [14:09] that's even more of a touchier subject then VO [14:09] With less techno, it would fit Zelda. [14:09] ...last time there was "Ahhs" they got rid of it. [14:10] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12where they just use a voice that's not actually saying anything in any real language as an extra instrument in the music [14:10] * ZeldaFan88902 (PJIRC@init-21C8A869.ipt.aol.com) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:10] and even malons singing was annoying [14:10] oh snap even [14:10] They should give Zelda the whole James Bond makeover like with Metal Gear. That'll screw it RIGHT over. [14:10] heh [14:10] do you think that TP will have a theme song with lyrics? [14:10] haha [14:10] *coughFireTemplecough* [14:10] LoS, yeah, "Choir ahs" [14:10] SNAKE EAAAATEEERR [14:10] but damn, that theme owned. [14:10] Trudat. [14:10] PilotEvan = Instant Win [14:10] Maybe something like that wind waker fan piece that was mistaken as the TP intro [14:10] if there are lyrics, please don't be like the Sonics ones [14:10] it was appropriate for MGS3 [14:10] PilotEvan_US-ZSO: I love the original FT music [14:10] yes it goes like 'Twilight Princess little star Link is going to save the day ahhhh' [14:10] I'm listening to that now, and that OWNS [14:10] (Yay for V1 of OoT) [14:10] fire temple was just like weird chants in the back not lyrics [14:10] Indeed. [14:10] Zelinxia - I liked Live and Learn... [14:10] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12Yeah, I really don't see how lyrics would fit in with Zelda. Of course, the only way to know would be to actually see it. [14:11] back [14:11] LYRICS WITH ZELDA? [14:11] Lyrics won't fit. [14:11] <4Chat Moderator> 12Okay [14:11] yes! [14:11] I like the lyrics in that song [14:11] No! [14:11] Just like Link's "voice" [14:11] that's ok [14:11] <4Chat Moderator> 12That is the end of the 3rd question [14:11] that would be AWFUL. [14:11] The Sonic music was good in my opinon. [14:11] they removed the chant from the fire temple though [14:11] ur right if the characters dont talk why should the songs? [14:11] was muslim related as was the mirror shield [14:11] Political issues. [14:11] It wasn't chanting. You see, the story behind that was that a couple were in the middle of making sweet, passionate love during the recording. [14:11] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12I think they did it right in FF crystal chronicles in terms of lyrics. The game was all wordless midi, but during the opening sequence they had that cool, inspiring song. that's the only type of lyric music I'd like to seen in zelda, something in the opening sequence, but nowhere else [14:11] chanting isn't lyrics. Not really, anyway. [14:11] I like the sonic music even with lyrics [14:11] I say only having lyrics in the opening song [14:11] <4Chat Moderator> 12moving on now away from the games and towards the community for once question. Our first speaker today will be... IceSycle [14:11] but that's sonic, this is zelda. [14:11] And I'll be gone soon because of that : ( [14:11] Leinator, we are in agreement [14:11] This chant might offend people! We must remove it, or the jihad will come to us! [14:11] no. no lyrics, anywhere. [14:11] It would spoil the mood. [14:11] ...not Muslim specifically, but religious issues. [14:11] <4Chat Moderator> 12Question 4: Do you think there should be a "unified" Zelda community? Why or why not? [14:12] And what if it is done badly? [14:12] or it doesn't suit the mood [14:12] no. it was specifically muslim. [14:12] or people don't like the singer? [14:12] Yami, every part of it could be done badly, or not suit the mood [14:12] hmm, good question [14:12] oh yeah =D [14:12] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12Not even worth debating, because there never will [14:12] same thing with the mirror shield though [14:12] unified will never work [14:12] Question 4: Do you think there should be a "unified" Zelda community? Why or why not? <-- NO [14:12] the Galactic Federation of Zelda [14:12] I don't know [14:12] However, the opening song is probably the safest place to experiment with stuff [14:12] Yes, and no [14:12] of course not. [14:12] BAD IDEA [14:12] I can see pure chaos resulting from it. [14:12] people disagree thats why there is more then one country in the world [14:12] ZI, land of legend, ZU, ZP, all those places should get together [14:12] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12however, this segmentation that we have is kinda strange ... I think we should move more toward a "Specialization" [14:12] pure awesomeness [14:12] Individuality is what makes Zelda Sites unique. [14:12] A unified community creates a tier system [14:12] yea [14:12] if there was... then Zelda wouldn't be able to evolve properly [14:12] There shouldn't be, just because it's more people for people to have to hate and add to Kill Lists. [14:12] ...good point [14:12] LoZ* [14:13] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12for instance ... having the same images at every site is a waste [14:13] I'm going to anser this. NO. Zelda Universe already has enough stupid! WE DO NOT NEED YOU PEOPLE MUCHING IT UP MORE. [14:13] A free-for-all ventrilo server maybe, but not a forum [14:13] you can't put every site in the community link [14:13] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12having one central location where fans can get images, now that makes sense [14:13] that's impossible [14:13] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12having news at every site is also a waste, having one central location for that makes sense [14:13] Why don't we all redirect every site to ZU? [14:13] Some webmasters would disagree having 'this site or that site' in the community [14:13] what's the point of this question? [14:13] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12so on and so forth ... that's just my view [14:13] a pre-approval system for a single community would make sense [14:13] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12personal zelda pages should be more for personal expression [14:13] But having one site for ALL news is pointless [14:13] <4Chat Moderator> 12I think thats what meant by a "unified" community [14:13] * ZeldaFan28515 (zuchat@init-837873BF.manc.cable.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:13] Ah, specialization might work, but at the same time, you lose some convinience, at what about the poor site that's specilization is OoT commercials? :P [14:13] I dunno, what has it to do with Zelda? [14:13] * ZeldaFan84948 (PJIRC@init-C1D2596E.slkc.qwest.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:13] I see some hating sprees going on... [14:13] <4Chat Moderator> 12but, thats my input on the matter [14:13] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12"hey, this is what I think about Zelda, this is what I like about it" [14:13] there will be conflict, of course. [14:13] i think i might make every fight rite now with this question.... [14:14] * ZeldaFan84948 is now known as Dabombster [14:14] * ZeldaFan28515 (zuchat@init-837873BF.manc.cable.ntl.com) Quit (Quit: ZeldaFan28515) [14:14] Well... That's one way to go.... Or, another way would be for all the fansites to just spontanious combust. [14:14] * Hazz (holyhazz@init-30986F95.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [14:14] What do you think about the timeline? [14:14] If you have one site with just zelda news, that's what Zelda.com technically is [14:14] plus everyone sees zelda differently and different zelda sites give the different people different ways to enjoy zelda [14:14] except, a bit mote updates [14:14] updates [14:14] The timeline isn't that hard to understand [14:14] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12the vast repositories of info should be centralized to one place, almost like a library, and the individual sites should be more like the villager's houses [14:14] too bad Zelda.com has a lag of a month or so [14:14] plus, what about sites like ZSO? Jaytheham.com/zc? [14:14] Unified means all the n00bs gather in one place. That would cause Armageddon. [14:14] GameFAQs. [14:14] Those aren't your traditional zelda sites [14:14] i know it isnt yet people fight over the timeline A LOT [14:14] The horror. [14:14] ...dont mention Gamefaqs. Please. [14:14] Yeah, the sites can't unify due to different views, so are the sites expected to give up their views on, say, the timeline because they can only comment on images? [14:14] This isn't the time for humour TSA :/ [14:14] By the way...I'm still looking for a n00b-free Zelda forum. [14:15] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12*done [14:15] I wasn't joking [14:15] Keep looking Psy. [14:15] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12That's like saying "should there be a UN?" The answer is: sure, it sounds nice, but it really can't work in theory because there are too many competing interests. We cna always try, but there's no guarantee of success. [14:15] the zelda games made by capcom ruined the timeline [14:15] Zelda Coalition comes close, Psy. [14:15] ? [14:15] it makes sense if you take them out of the picture [14:15] How so? [14:15] well more sense anyway [14:15] I liked the zelda capcom games [14:15] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12In the end, though, the trying is definitely worth the while if we can only get even halfway unified. [14:15] * ZeldaFan61187 (PJIRC@init-67147CE3.cable.wanadoo.nl) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:15] A n00b free Zelda forum is like a fairy, right? One of those magical things that doesn't exist, correct? [14:15] Wise_Link: No, even First party games defy any kind of timeline [14:15] Capcom's games aren't part of the canon, Wise_link. [14:15] I didn't realize this chatroom was for timeline debate and theorization... [14:15] i guess with the interchangable OoS and OoA [14:15] i'd imagine that's what the forums are for [14:15] <@Mess> I didn't realize this chatroom was for timeline debate and theorization... <-- OH DEAR GOD [14:16] <4JC - psloz.com> 12It really depends on what you mean by "Community". If you decide to let everyone act in an organized manner and take things from people's sites, that's not a good idea of a 'Unified Community'. [14:16] <4JC - psloz.com> 12The Community should NOT discriminate between bigger sites and smaller sites. Bigger sites should give the smaller sites a chance. That's a very good act of a unified Communit [14:16] <4JC - psloz.com> 12I mean, every Zelda site celebrates the same thing : The Legend of Zelda series. [14:16] Your FACE is for timeline debate and theorization. [14:16] <4JC - psloz.com> 12If you want to unify the Zelda Community, have every site like every site. No discrimination between the sites. [14:16] OMFGSTFUPWNED [14:16] ok get off the timeline then.. [14:16] ever seen the anime mobile suit gundam? they tried to do an earth's sphere unified alliance. guess what happend -- colonies in space declared war with the earth [14:16] pfffff [14:16] * LazySaviour was kicked by Mess (Mess) [14:16] timeline wars... [14:16] There could be something like a United Nations of ZU sites. [14:16] i liked tmc and all too but its bad as far as helping the timeline make sense [14:16] * LazySaviour (HellsSavio@init-6A1C504D.brig.cable.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:16] Every site the same doesn't work, you may as well only have one site [14:16] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12Honestly i dont think there should be, because no matter how long nintendo, its games, or its rumors have been out there has never been a subject that EVERYONE can agree one, and because people like different looks, and styles, and different ways of running things. [14:16] * ZeldaFan38418 (PJIRC@55C52883.3337247F.22B63F8B.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:16] I feel the love already. [14:16] and im ending my timeline talk there... [14:16] Similar to how the UN works [14:16] but with ZU sites. [14:16] thats essentially what would happen to the community if it was unified [14:16] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12A unified community? Can't happen. Simple as that. [14:16] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12People are people, and will neer fully agree on how things should be run, how things should be portrayed, and all that. Not to mention ownership and things. This is a capitalist world. [14:16] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12On the idea of a single location with images and established information, that wouldn't work too well either, simply because again, people don't all agree. Not everyone chooses the same wordings, the same presentations. Not to mention bandwidth. [14:16] alright, I'm out kids [14:16] I say timeline, the door is there ---> [14:16] take care matt [14:16] * ZeldaFan38418 is now known as Doh [14:16] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12I'm all for having some sort of "unity" among the various Zelda sites out there, but I just don't think it's viable to combine. Leave the sites independent and running their own deals how they wish. Sorta like the UN and the countries within, only not quite so big and important. And pompous. [14:16] later Matt. [14:16] aha. [14:17] I see Scott has my thinking cap on 8) [14:17] Similar to how the UN works <-- so like, loads of people in a room shouting at eachother? [14:17] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12typing [14:17] yes dom :P [14:17] * Matt991 (matt991@init-6476EF7A.oakland.resnet.pitt.edu) Quit (Quit: So who's got the candy? I know I've got the land! CANDYLAND!) [14:17] A truce, yes. But unification? no way [14:17] that would be fun [14:17] twilight hero btw were supposed to comment on what the webmasters are saying [14:17] Trudat, Dommy poo. [14:17] stop distracting me...<_< [14:17] i know [14:17] I don't see much in the way of a unified community beyond everyone having nice 'affiliate' links to everyone else, the sties just wouldn't be able to agree on enough [14:17] * Hazz (holyhazz@init-30986F95.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:17] im just listening to the disscussion for a while [14:17] * ZeldaFan50427 (PJIRC@4F386414.D0986B72.D54239A8.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:18] wb hazz [14:18] exactly [14:18] a lot of sites are also too diversed, like I said [14:18] Thanks mess :) [14:18] so when exactly is the twilight princess coming out? [14:18] * ZeldaFan61187 (PJIRC@init-67147CE3.cable.wanadoo.nl) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:18] October [14:18] Oh GOD no... [14:18] Same time as the Revo [14:18] ZOMG DR WHO IS ON [14:18] It's was suppose to come out on April 15 [14:18] *Away* [14:18] Anyone have the new NP? [14:18] There's no way a server could handle an entire Zelda community, anyway... [14:18] in the fall [14:18] Volume 204? [14:18] no it wasnt [14:18] With Castlevania on the cover? [14:18] No...mine hasn't come yet. [14:18] new castelvania info [14:18] yes it was [14:18] not yet [14:18] TSA -- If I was in america, I would have [14:18] :-p [14:18] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12This is definitely an important question that I put a lot of consideration into befor this chat even started. Personally, I like the state of the community now. [14:18] They're coming later and later for some reason. [14:18] Want to know the Zelda Interviewee [14:18] not yet here either [14:19] and about this promotional disc [14:19] what is that about [14:19] This is like the ZU forums in a concentrated form [14:19] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12What we have today is similar to the state of the "european community" during the early 1970's. Each country was separate, but they shared agriculture, economy, and industrial produciton. [14:19] i dont have mine yet but i want to read bout that game [14:19] ZeldaFan50427: No, it's release date was bumped back months ago [14:19] Who? [14:19] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12They were kept from a full alliance becuase of differing governmental views. If you compare this with the community today, this is exactly what is going on. each site is a separate entity, but we are unified through our sharing of knowledge and material. [14:19] NO TSA!!! [14:19] I do. =P [14:19] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12We are kept apart though becuase of differing community government views and differing views on smaller aspects of the games. Do I think this is healthy? yes I do, becuase argument and debate keeps the community alive, it keeps the fire buring within us to prove our views on the particulars of the game. [14:19] you see nintendo isnt that bright [14:19] From what I have gathered, TP will launch with the Revolution. [14:19] Yami, your full of it lol [14:19] ZeldaFan50427: Why not? [14:19] where did you get that [14:19] they should of released the game ages ago especially with the PS3 coming out shortly after [14:19] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12done [14:19] not really :P [14:19] Yami, TP is coming earlier then the revolution [14:20] it seems pretty obvious though. [14:20] <4Chat Moderator> 12er [14:20] So, like, one last "Hoorah" for the GameCube, eh? [14:20] that's the general consensus, though it's not proven at all. [14:20] Yes let's have a crap game [14:20] would suck if you were australia, then [14:20] it will have Revolution functionability [14:20] <__T__> It's funny how seriously this is all taken. It's kidna funny to me. [14:20] <4Chat Moderator> 12then los: go [14:20] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12There are arguements for both sides of this question. I think the community should be united as it makes the people from each site visit other sites and not just sit around at one as was the case back in the Oot era of the community. [14:20] No, actually, now they have an uber-shyped psuedo launch title for the Rev. [14:20] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12However on the flip side having a slightly divided community does make each webmaster put more into their own site and genenerally bring up the whole quality of the entire zelda community generally. [14:20] well im off, later everyone [14:20] and it would make sense. [14:20] because of PS3, which will eiter fail or be delayed [14:20] it's probably going to be the last hoorah for the gamecube, yes [14:20] bye [14:20] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12This isn't in my opinion an easy question to answer however if I had to say either way I would want a united community I think. [14:20] *hyped [14:20] I doubt TP will be a GC title [14:20] * ZeldaFan42050 (zuchat@init-A81F52A1.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:20] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Ooh, touchy subject. A unified Zelda community. It’s been tried, with the Zelda Alliance, affiliation systems, people sharing content… sites working together on a small scale is fine and dandy. On a larger scale, I would love to see more interconnectedness, with different sites linking to each other’s projects, lending each other support… [14:20] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12But ultimately, going for any real unity just doesn’t work. People fight, they disagree. We like having our own niche, things we have power over. We like being able to express ourselves through our sites, create the atmosphere we want. All of us here know that. [14:20] * ZeldaFan42050 is now known as Kyougou [14:20] * Volcanux (PJIRC@init-4279B6DB.bmly.cable.ntl.com) has left #zeldaroundtable [14:20] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Ice’s vision is actually a very intriguing one, and has some similarities to the old Zelda Alliance project… but those same problems I mentioned, like people wanting everything at their sites and enjoying their individuality, got in the way. [14:20] * ZeldaFan50427 is now known as Dark_Link [14:20] It will be. [14:20] You and many others that are just wrong in the head. [14:20] Why would Nintendo go back on their word? [14:20] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12And what happens when people don’t like the layouts or the atmospheres of the big library sites? I don’t think it could work, and I wouldn’t really want it to work. I love being able to see a lot of the same stuff presented by different people, in different words, in different atmospheres. It is one of the beauties of our vast Zelda community. [14:20] * Doh (PJIRC@55C52883.3337247F.22B63F8B.IP) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:20] Kyougou, Nintendo has out and out said that it will be [14:21] because they always do [14:21] and make people buy a new console. [14:21] Makoto Miyanagi, TSA? [14:21] They don't need Zelda for Rev, they have Metroid Prime 3 [14:21] it is definatley on da rev. and maybe the GC too [14:21] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Leinator had a great example [14:21] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12the best, I'd say, when she compaed us to the European countries of hte 1970s. [14:21] they would do that [14:21] the gamecube has been dead for awhile now its not really a last "hoorah" its more of a semi ressurection... for about one hour... [14:21] Which will be the uber game of the year [14:21] I know nintendo I have been a nintendo for 17 years [14:21] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12Zelda fans love different things about the games, and therefore they will gravitate towards sites [14:21] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12that cater for their own ideas. Therefore I don't believe that we will ever have a truly 'unified' [14:21] What about RE4> [14:21] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12sorry to interject, but I am a guy. just had to establish that [14:21] TP will sell both Gamecubes and Revolutions. [14:21] * Asci (abrokenpot@init-F0AE718E.hsd1.il.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: If it's too loud, turn it down) [14:21] Why would it be on the Revolution AND GameCube when the Revolution is backwards compatible? [14:21] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12community in that sense. Diversity is a good thing which I encourage; if every site had exactly the same information, it [14:21] RE4 was a good game [14:21] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12would be boring. So the fanfic writers will spend time together, the speed-runners will have their [14:21] i just want the E3 to come! [14:21] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12own place, the Zelda shippers, etc. What I don't understand is how nasty the fighting between groups can [14:21] It revived it not? [14:21] brb [14:21] * Dark_Link is now known as Guest46201 [14:21] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12sometimes get. After all, we all have something in common - ZELDA! [14:21] Software sells hardware :) [14:21] but I highly doubt it will beat Zelda IF and that is a big IF nintendo keeps their word [14:21] * Peefy (Peefyn@AA6F6534.71288E4.E4BDC964.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:22] Good point, Yams. [14:22] * ZeldaFan55567 is now known as KamakaziPlumber [14:22] or wait RE4, that release date was a while back... nevermind [14:22] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12I'd love to see Zelda sites work together more and have cooperative events, but I think there'd be a lot of issues regarding getting everyone to work together and not slack off. But consider this chat room effort. [14:22] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12I really think that's part of forming a unified community, and hopefully as time goes on we'll be able to make this work even better.Of course, I think people need to realize that not everyone has to agree with each other in order to make a unified community. [14:22] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12You just have to realize that, unless the answer is proven true, everyone has the right to their own opinions and hypotheses. Get past that, and you'll be that much closer. [14:22] ok [14:22] this MNgoldeneagle, which site is he from? [14:22] well duh, you can't buy a console and play it without any software. Well you could, but look stupid in the process. [14:22] who here thinks ZELDA TP will be better than ZELDA WINDWAKER??? [14:22] ZSO [14:22] it says his site right there. [14:22] MNGoldenEagle: Whee, the Scientific method [14:22] ME [14:22] * Kyougou (zuchat@init-A81F52A1.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Kyougou) [14:22] ye same here [14:23] * ZeldaFan31678 is now known as DarkLink28 [14:23] [14:23] but not [14:23] I think YA MUM would be better than Wind Waker. [14:23] Hmm [14:23] zso.krahs-emag.com That sounds like me throwing up [14:23] * Guest46201 is now known as Dark_Link [14:23] I wonder what site he represents. [14:23] so about PH... any thoughts? [14:23] If TWW wasn't rushed, it wouldn't've been. [14:23] Heheh. Says Game-Shark backwards BTW [14:23] Does the sound of you throwing up sound like pwnage? [14:23] * Dark_Link is now known as Darkness [14:23] Because that's what it is. [14:23] yes it would have been a lot better [14:23] And at the risk of being flamed, TWW was my second favorite Zelda game, right behind Majora's Mask. [14:23] and guys [14:23] which is why im not completely upset about the tp delays [14:23] MM FTW! [14:23] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12I think seperate works best. We should unify ideas, share communities, but seperate has to happen. It's just too hard to govern such a vast community all in one spot. We need to stay interactive amongst the communities, but keep some form of seperation. It works best that way> We need to work together more often however. There our several fans who bash other zelda communties. that is an issue we sh [14:23] Nathan ^-^ [14:24] people say that Link WILL DIE in this final Zelda game [14:24] WE LOVE YOU [14:24] WW was my first Zelda game. I don't see anything wrong, but then again... [14:24] We do? [14:24] i doubt that [14:24] could be true especially the windwaker beginning with the flood [14:24] I was never informed. [14:24] Darkness You made me laugh at loud. [14:24] that would be pretty cool [14:24] People say that jumping in front of cars is fun too. [14:24] <__T__> WHY CAN"T ANYNE ACTUALLY STAY ON TOPIC? ARE YOU ALL ADD? [14:24] i find it funny that many ppl like mm the best when its not very high up on my list of favorite zeldas [14:24] Please listen to those people. [14:24] * Peefy (Peefyn@AA6F6534.71288E4.E4BDC964.IP) Quit (Quit: __T__> WHY CAN"T ANYNE ACTUALLY STAY ON TOPIC? ARE YOU ALL ADD?) [14:24] and plus one of the guys said that it might not be hyrule's time this time [14:24] no, it would not be cool if link died. [14:24] but hey like i said ppl have different opinions [14:24] <__T__> WHY CAN"T ANYNE ACTUALLY STAY ON TOPIC? ARE YOU ALL ADD? <-- lose the caps maybe. [14:24] Well, if you have bad taste, that's not my problem. [14:25] sure, it would be dramatic, and the game would be a great hit, but... [14:25] I wouldn't mind staying on topic [14:25] <__T__> MY MESSAGES WOULDN'T STAND OUT FI I DIDN'T [14:25] Twilight Prince [14:25] taste is opinion. [14:25] <__T__> Ok, sorry, lol! [14:25] havent you been reading [14:25] ... [14:25] Link better get lucky with some of that FINE Zelda arse if he's gonna die then. [14:25] Ii can't read. [14:25] Darkness Some guy told me that Raptor Jesus was going to smite me... [14:25] My mind has an anti-caps filter. [14:25] <4The Real Link - Nintendo-Universe.com> 12We are all supporting the same game series. I think the best way to help other fans like ourselves is to work together. However, it is also good too be different at the same time as it allows for a much more diverse community that covers almost every aspect of the series to varying degrees. It is good for the community to have diversity, but at the same time we must also work toge [14:25] IT MUST BE TRUE [14:25] i find it funny that many ppl like mm the best when its not very high up on my list of favorite zeldas <-- Differences in opinion. [14:25] If I see something in caps, I ignore it. [14:25] Link will die [14:25] <4TS - multiftp.free.fr/z64> 12I'm not sure, really. I mean, most of the Zelda communities online have split off from a larger community, something which will always be happening. [14:25] Link won't die [14:25] He already died. [14:25] I'm guessing most people have that too. [14:25] Of lung cancer. [14:25] it is his destiny [14:25] <4TS - multiftp.free.fr/z64> 12Firstly, if there is one big community, everyone will know the same information, and normally secretive things will be public knowledge. [14:25] That's the twist. [14:25] <4TS - multiftp.free.fr/z64> 12If you have many seperate communities, it is hard to keep track of new information, and rumours for that matter. However, in smaller communities, people get to know eachother better, which leads to a better, happier community. [14:25] Darkness I repeat... [14:25] Darkness Some guy told me that Raptor Jesus was going to smite me... [14:25] <4IceSycle - generation17.com/izc> 12I have to run folks ... nice talking with you [14:25] it goes against the who moral of the zelda series, good conquers evil [14:25] IT MUST BE TRUE [14:25] Darkness, Nintendo has already said tha tTP won't be overly dark, Link's death counts as Dark. [14:25] exactly lazt saviour [14:25] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I proposed to Scott of ZU the other day a universal Zelda community idea that stole from MySpace, basically. But it goes beyond that. Multiple "portal" pages, which are the sites, linking thousands of photo galleries, blogs and forums together via one account per member. [14:25] it's like killing off mario [14:26] * ZeldaFan37905 (PJIRC@init-67DAF79E.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:26] well not really Gdwarf [14:26] nintendo wouldn't do it, they're smarter then that [14:26] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12But the problem is...there's still a force controlling it. [14:26] if Link Dies it wouldn;t be that dark [14:26] There'd have to be [14:26] why did i get quoted [14:26] Link dies in every game. [14:26] :o [14:26] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I proposed to Scott of ZU the other day a universal Zelda community idea that stole from MySpace, basically. But it goes beyond that. Multiple "portal" pages, which are the sites, linking thousands of photo galleries, blogs and forums together via one account per member. <-- there will be conflicts with usernames and such. Probably. And originality, for that matter. [14:26] Dark, how is that not dark? [14:26] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12And nobody wants to be put under someone else's power here [14:26] *confused* [14:26] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12In short, I don't think there should be "one" place for Zelda. It defeats the purpose. [14:26] smaller unifications like Zelda Coalition isn't too bad, because it can be controlled [14:26] AND CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME THE ORDER OF ALL THE ZELDA GAMES PLEASE [14:26] <4Chat Moderator> 12done? [14:26] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12There's more than one fan, there should be as many Zelda sites as possible. [14:26] Link does die. Then the fairy in the jar brings him back. [14:26] No [14:26] what is it with everyone and myspace anyway??? [14:26] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12typing [14:26] CAUSE IT IS CONFUSING [14:26] We can't [14:26] ... [14:26] Oh, Do you mean killed for good, or temproarily killed [14:26] and it's not like if you don't get accepted, you're crap [14:26] ? [14:26] That's the point. [14:26] <__T__> THERE IS NONE [14:26] <__T__> Sorry [14:26] My Space is lame. [14:27] good point LS [14:27] * ZeldaFan37905 (PJIRC@init-67DAF79E.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:27] Killed as in you died in the game. [14:27] =P [14:27] it's just a community that's there [14:27] MySpace = Lose [14:27] * Twilight_Hero (PJIRC@init-E8443FFC.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:27] AND CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME THE ORDER OF ALL THE ZELDA GAMES PLEASE <- Loz Aol Lttp La OoT MM WW [14:27] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I don't want a unified community in the sense we all do the same thing. [14:27] "Game Over" screen [14:27] lol [14:27] MySpace makes you lose many internets. [14:27] this channel = zelda discussion [14:27] Nicely done Hazz [14:27] agreed [14:27] * Ice (PJIRC@D5B1409E.1D55707A.43FDE976.IP) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:27] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12I feel that the idea of joining the sites is nice, but honestly we just need to be more "open" to eachotehr in sharing the goods. We keep too much too ourselves and leave other communties behind. [14:27] * ZeldaFan42791 (PJIRC@init-E8443FFC.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:27] Hazz [14:27] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I would like it that we're all on the same page about a few basic principles...and courtesies. [14:27] I try GD [14:27] you forgot a couple of games [14:27] sry bout that [14:27] what about oracle of ages and seasons [14:27] Yami <-- there will be conflicts with usernames and such. Probably. And originality, for that matter. <- more than that, but yeah. [14:27] myspace=psycho emo hangout [14:27] Those are the main canon games. [14:27] like i said, a truce would be best [14:27] That because I named the ones I like Darkness [14:27] * ZeldaFan42791 is now known as Twilight_Hero [14:27] <__T__> My space is gay [14:27] * Dabombster (PJIRC@init-C1D2596E.slkc.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:27] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Exactly [14:28] no rivalries or whatecer [14:28] well it's not relevant [14:28] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12But as far as diversity - keep it going. We have opinions, and that's what Zelda is about. I'll never buy into an idea of a unified community again if it means everyone working on one "site" or "idea". [14:28] * ZeldaFan49547 (PJIRC@init-C1D2596E.slkc.qwest.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:28] My Space is overrated [14:28] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12done [14:28] whatever [14:28] im talking bout overall [14:28] ok great every dislikes myspace [14:28] * ZeldaFan49547 is now known as Dabombster [14:28] everyone* [14:28] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12In concept, it seems like a great idea. People all working toward a common goal, almost like wikipedia. However, we've all got our own egos to feed, and we've all got our own take on what is right and wrong for the community. Within the community, there are old likes and dislikes of people all over the place, and as such, it'll never happen. [14:28] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12The closest we've got to this is ZedlaBlog, which is great. However, it would never really work as a giant site, as simply, there'd be no one webmaster if it were truly 'unified'. However, I do think that community-crossing is good. Never isolate yourself to one forum, as it's a bad thing to do. You don't get a full view on the Zelda world, join more than one. Besides, that way you make [14:28] I was hating MySpace before it became "cool" to hate it. [14:28] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12I'm all for good 'ol fashioned capitalism; have everybody fight for the top. [14:28] no bitching at other sites if they steal their content or whatever [14:28] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12It would be a nice idea to keep everybody sort of together, somehow, like what we're doing right now. Share ideas and projects... I've done that with other sites in the past, and is almost always beneficial. (Like E3 last year, where us and a couple other sites collaborated on E3 coverage. Worked out quite well.) [14:28] AND CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME THE ORDER OF ALL THE ZELDA GAMES PLEASE <- Loz Aol Lttp La OoT MM WW <-- You forgot FS, FSA and TMC. [14:28] This chatroom has so many horrible Zelda related names... [14:28] its crippling [14:28] just talk it over politely [14:28] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Of course, we don't have to worry about squabbles in the Zelda community for the most part, so it's not something I think about. ;P [14:28] I was hating myspac ebefore you were born [14:28] NO TIMELINE! [14:28] yami your not alone [14:28] Psy I named the ones I like [14:28] <4F3 - htloz.net> 12I know my Zelda bookmarks don't fit on my screen. [14:28] * ZeldaFan56952 (PJIRC@init-6244FF46.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:28] lol [14:28] <4F3 - htloz.net> 12I can't help but think that some webmasters with struggling sites would be better off working as part of a staff team on another site. [14:28] You can't just walk onto the scene and start hating MySpace. [14:28] HAzz u still forgot one game [14:29] Phantom hourglass [14:29] LOL [14:29] You gotta work your way up the ladder. [14:29] Wow Darkness [14:29] Your hilarious [14:29] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12So, it seems we all here can agree about a unified community: It's like communism. Sounds nice, but just doesn't work. [14:29] Psy I named the ones I like <- Then you're now my friend. [14:29] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12One place, no. I agree with that. But we could still work together to help bring our communities together, like this here, more often than we've done. [14:29] Wow [14:29] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12"Unity" is good in the sense that sites aren't out to actively destroy each other. "Unity" in the sense of working together now and then. Zelda Blog is a good example of that. We're all a team. Debates and disagreements are healthy and help us move forward, but they shouldn't bring us down. [14:29] anyways [14:29] or you can look at Myspace and right away realize how inefficient it is [14:29] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12However, I think it's also important for sites to maintain their individuality. We should all try to get along with each other and cheer each other on, but we should all try to do our own thing, too. The community loses its meaning and purpose if all sites are the same. [14:29] We're still on question 4?! [14:29] A sort of half-way unified community might work, but it'd take quite a bit of time to impliment [14:29] is anybody here buying Twilight Princess? [14:29] Yeah. [14:29] so true scott [14:29] one good thing about a unified community is a chance to meet new people. [14:29] like this [14:29] No, nobody is buying TP [14:30] yes Steve on this freaking community question [14:30] Is the Zelda community turning in to a decomcracy [14:30] no [14:30] lol [14:30] At this rate, it's going to be an all-day thing. [14:30] lol [14:30] I am [14:30] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12What is the goal of your site? Do you care that others see it? You should only start a website if you feel you are doing it for the right reasons. I'm not happy when people compare sites to each other. It's like comparing Final Fantasy to Zelda. [14:30] what kind of question is that, really? lol [14:30] JasonRose why arent you [14:30] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12People need to stop focusing on other sites... [14:30] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12and focus on their own. [14:30] lol [14:30] I wasn't serious. [14:30] darkness, he was pulling your leg [14:30] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12People should not comapare sotes. hoenstly. [14:30] I reserved my copy last year... [14:30] oh tru say [14:30] Darkness, how old are you? [14:30] * ZeldaFan50590 (zuchat@init-E69CE9AE.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:30] I agree TSA [14:30] do we look at what webmasters ares saying [14:30] I reserved mine 2 years ago [14:30] Community questions are important to those of us who are active in it. [14:30] I shur am. [14:30] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12We're all pretty much on the same page here I think. If I may summarize what a lot of people are saying, I think we should implement "reforms" in terms of how close we are, but completely unifyinh the community is saying the one entity has the power to decide what we all beleinve in terms of the series and the community, it just doesn't work when you think about the fact that we all hav [14:30] right after E3 2004 [14:31] I RESERVED MINE BEFORE WIND WAKER! TAKE THAT BITCH! [14:31] and I still have my receipt [14:31] * turismo (PJIRC@init-CFE7D229.wfd75b.dsl.pol.co.uk) Quit (Ping timeout) [14:31] Leinator, that sounds 'bout right [14:31] thats nice [14:31] * Mess sets mode: +b *!*ellsSavio@*.brig.cable.ntl.com [14:31] haha, my pre-order receipt is collecting dust in my room [14:31] but i dont think anyone cares lazy saviour [14:31] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12done [14:31] * LazySaviour was kicked by Mess (Mess) [14:31] same here [14:31] People should look to other sites what they can improve on their own [14:31] I HAVEN'T RESERVED MINE YET [14:31] 8) [14:31] the letters are gone [14:31] <4Chat Moderator> 12finishing Leinator's sentence: it just doesn't work when you think about the fact that we all have different views on how things should be run. [14:31] because it is so old [14:31] I had to get a new one [14:31] Hazz, you're screwed. [14:31] * Twilight_Hero (PJIRC@init-E8443FFC.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:31] I had my preorder receipt in my wallet for so long that most of the text on it is almost completely worn off [14:31] so I have 2 reciepts [14:31] * ZeldaFan56952 is now known as Tp [14:31] same here [14:31] I'm afriad they won't accept it anymore, and I've alreayd paid for it in full ;) [14:31] LoS - Mine too. =P [14:31] I know shadow [14:31] same [14:31] lord-of-shadow: Same here [14:32] What are we talking about? [14:32] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12One last thing - It would be awesome if everything that went wrong in the community wasn't always blame on me. [14:32] sounds like a lot like me l-o-s [14:32] You can just make out the word 'princess' [14:32] the text is completely gone [14:32] lol [14:32] I payed five dollars for mine... I didn't get any fancy receipt =P [14:32] so i had to get another ione [14:32] what? [14:32] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12Haha, fat chance of that, man. [14:32] What the hell? [14:32] TP was delayed. I blame TSA [14:32] Nice.... [14:32] :( [14:32] lol [14:32] TSA IS TO BLAME FOR MY COMPUTER BREAKING [14:32] Since when did that ever come up? [14:32] TSA, we all know everything is your fault anyways [14:32] AND ME BEING THIRSTY [14:32] :o [14:32] MY FOOT IS NUMB! DAMN YOU TSA! [14:32] Dammit TSA, whyja haveta get TP delayed :P [14:32] winer! [14:32] <4Chat Moderator> 12Question 5: [14:32] * __T__ wonders why no one is on topic.. [14:32] <4Chat Moderator> 12Do you think Nintendo has cut back on the amount of effort it puts into the total [14:32] <4Chat Moderator> 12"Zelda" Package - for example, the ALttP on SNES manual had so much artwork and [14:32] <4Chat Moderator> 12information, as did the guide. A lot of little things were treated with care. Yet, now it [14:32] crybaby [14:32] <4Chat Moderator> 12seems like a simple formula rehashed over and over, and Nintendo cuts corners. [14:32] TSA IS TEH ANTICHRIST [/genericnoobcomment] [14:32] __T__, please, put a sock in it. [14:33] <4Chat Moderator> 12pasted straight from email [14:33] We are on topic. Loosely. [14:33] One last thing - It would be awesome if everything that went wrong in the community wasn't always blame on me. <-- Ironically, you ARE to be blamed for the huge fad that is about to ensue now that you've said that. [14:33] <4Chat Moderator> 12*shoots someone's grammar* [14:33] <__T__> Why? [14:33] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Oooh. Interesting. [14:33] <__T__> I'm tryign to help [14:33] this game is gonna be sick [14:33] LOL [14:33] finally [14:33] part of the fun, Psy. [14:33] a good Q [14:33] What game? [14:33] might be the best game for gamecube of all time [14:33] Oh boy, Since my first Zelda game was seasons I can't comment on the 'good 'ole days", but aLttP has by far the best manual, does it not? [14:33] TP? [14:33] You seem like a whining old hag. [14:33] <__T__> Me? [14:33] YTMND HERE I COME LOL [14:33] <4Chat Moderator> 12okay, then, we'll start with TS [14:33] <__T__> Well thank you [14:33] Yeah. [14:33] this game is gonna be sick <- Are you hip yo? [14:33] u guys r still arguing [14:33] * ZeldaFan61308 (PJIRC@init-9EA9DF2A.ipt.aol.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:34] lol [14:34] ye Im hip [14:34] You do know you are off topic for saying "STAY ON TOPIC". [14:34] ...... [14:34] how's everything here in the public chatroom? [14:34] aren't you [14:34] Oh boy, Since my first Zelda game was seasons I can't comment on the 'good 'ole days", but aLttP has by far the best manual, does it not? <-- Yup. Too bad 90% of it was scrapped. [14:34] that's ironic [14:34] <__T__> It's horrible Leinator [14:34] u guys r still arguing <- Ouch I think my eyes just melted [14:34] * ZeldaFan61308 is now known as ZeldaBitch [14:34] yes the alttp manual was awesome [14:34] * Tp is now known as Minda [14:34] Leinator: chaotic :( [14:34] that sucks [14:34] I find it sad that my LTTP GBA manual is in black and white. [14:34] and I also lost my cart ;_; [14:34] really expanded thezelda universe for me when i was younger [14:34] * Mess sets mode: +b *!*PJIRC@*.ipt.aol.com [14:34] Comments like TSAs is why we shouldn't have a unified community. One person says something and people bitch. [14:35] I find that Nintendo if just dicking around with that game [14:35] Mess make it +m ;) [14:35] * ZeldaBitch was kicked by Mess (Mess) [14:35] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Yes. [14:35] <__T__> Ok, by the way, sorry to bug you Yami [14:35] *plays ALttP GBA to spite Yami* [14:35] <__T__> I'll try not to yell from now on [14:35] It doesn't bother me too much though. [14:35] * TheTeej-ZSO-ZP was kicked by Mess (Mess) [14:35] LTTP wasn't my favourite zelda game. [14:35] It doesn't rank up there with LA for me :) [14:35] =P You're now my friend as well. [14:35] <__T__> I haven't played LA yet [14:35] LA = Immensely Underrated [14:35] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12Yes. In a word. All of the new manuals and players guides and things do seem to be rather lacklustre. There is far less storyline in these booklets, and the artwork is sub-par. Majora's Mask in the UK was good, Ocarina of Time was poor. Not to mention The Wind Waker, it was all a little... rushed. [14:35] well alttp is my favorite zelda game [14:35] its my 2nd fav [14:35] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12In The Legend of Zelda, the manual had all of the monsters listed, with their own artwork with it. Do we see that anymore? Nope. We do see the occasional, bigger monster, but that's only online from someone else's hard scanning work. [14:36] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12In addition to this, in England, the manuals for the Portable games are always in black and white. I blame NoE for a poor job on things like this, at least in England. It sucks and they really need to put effort into ti. [14:36] be funny if Zelda TP actually sucked what a bummer [14:36] My first Zelda game, and my favourite. [14:36] but that may have to do with the fact it was the first zelda game i played [14:36] heh [14:36] * ZeldaFan50128 (PJIRC@init-4482C4A2.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:36] My first, too, actually. [14:36] on the ol' brick Game Boy. [14:36] yres [14:36] * ZeldaFan50128 is now known as Knuckles500 [14:36] I remember the good days, back in 1994 :P [14:36] * Archdeco (Sue@init-851A9058.kc.res.rr.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:36] In the new zelda games you couldn't list every monster [14:36] Strange thing is, I didn't even know that Zelda was a series then. [14:36] Ocarina vs Twilight who will win [14:36] That'd be stupid [14:36] Wasn't until I got OoT that I even realized it was the same series as LA. [14:36] heh [14:36] heh [14:37] Is the real roundtable over? [14:37] no. [14:37] no [14:37] No. [14:37] No [14:37] Still going [14:37] <__T__> no. [14:37] no [14:37] Question 5 now. [14:37] No [14:37] this is the roundtable [14:37] * TheTeej-ZSO-ZP (tjalian@init-F9273AE3.lutn.cable.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:37] What is TP was delayed again. :O [14:37] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12It's hard to compare these games with LttP. After the big stink that AoL was (in my opinion), Nintendo had to come back from it, and threw EVERYTHING they had into LttP. [14:37] No [14:37] black and white for the uk [14:37] Lame [14:37] hazz [14:37] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12I still enjoy the recent games, but they indeed are lacking in effort when compared to LttP, because Nintendo wasn't coming back from a bombed game. [14:37] Of course, the very first time I played LA, I got to the first dungeon, then moved, and somehow my game got lost. [14:37] that sucks [14:37] And I just found it last year. [14:37] >_> [14:37] heh [14:37] IF TP got delayed again I would buy iut [14:37] * Archdeco (Sue@init-851A9058.kc.res.rr.com) has left #zeldaroundtable [14:37] I didn't even say B***h in a derogatory context [14:37] and I get kicked [14:37] So...I just recently completed LA. [14:37] Hey, I *liked* AoL [14:37] cause Nindtendo is dicking around too much [14:37] :( [14:37] I got stuck on the 2nd dungeon for a few yeras [14:37] Lame<-- not lame. bad words = kick [14:37] years& [14:37] even. [14:37] Aol was good [14:37] I picked it up again a few years back [14:37] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12We need more easter eggs that would provide fodder for a hundred exploratory articles. As it is, I'm still scraping the bottom of the barrell with what I can find in the more recent games. [14:37] Aol was easy to me [14:37] completed that dungeon [14:37] <4Chat Moderator> 12if i can add onto that, do you feel nintendo is doing the same coming out of wind waker? [14:37] well tww was bombed in the sense that it was rushed imo [14:37] and finished the game shortly after :D [14:37] they say there is going to be a promotional disc of Twilight princess at E3 [14:37] So you're saying [14:38] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Hrmm.... well, here's one thing to take into consideration: production costs. LTTP was a sprite-based game using an engine Nintendo's been working with for ages. OOT used a completely redesigned engine, was their first 3-D modeled Zelda game, and took about four years to finish. It was also one of the first games released in a 256-MBit cartridge, which is more expensive. So if they h [14:38] =D [14:38] <4Chat Moderator> 12Sorry, that just struck my interest ;) [14:38] * Knuckles500 is now known as Knuckles500-ZSO [14:38] * NickNack (nickthenac@init-1A365F67.an2.sfo17.da.uu.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [14:38] and will be given out if u pre ordered the game already [14:38] everyone says the word for female dog, they're swearing? [14:38] what n00bish [14:38] i don't care what kind of context it is... [14:38] o-o [14:38] <4JC - psloz.com> 12I'd really love to see some pretty accurate, correctl translated stories in there. We all remember what happened with the Alttp SNES Manual. A Total mess. It Can't be trusted. [14:38] ...O.o [14:38] my bitch of a dog got pregnant. [14:38] <4JC - psloz.com> 12I don't really look for art, personally. If I see art, I always link it back to the constant thought in my head: [14:38] <4JC - psloz.com> 12"How does it effect the timeline." [14:38] * Yami was kicked by Mess (Mess) [14:38] * Yami (l33t.fr34k@init-9DF4625A.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:38] darn [14:38] hah. [14:38] Who cares about the manuals? [14:38] Me. [14:38] Its the game that counts. [14:38] Heh, I like the Art, I just wish it didn't sometimes give away bosses [14:38] <4JC - psloz.com> 12Personally, the manuals should focus on the stories a bit more. [14:38] I read the manuals [14:39] <4JC - psloz.com> 12But, this doesn't mean Nintendo is taking easy way outs. Manuals are often made 6 months before release so they can be manfactured. That's during the dreaded Crunch time. You really can't blame them sometimes. [14:39] <4JC - psloz.com> 12If you get what's needed to be conveyed in the Booklet, you shouldn't have a problem with it. That's why we PLAY and EXPERIENCE Zelda games: for the meaning of adventure. [14:39] some people actualy read them [14:39] now that was uncalled for Mess, as it was in context and not in a negative light. [14:39] I don't...:D [14:39] :p [14:39] I read them too. :P [14:39] I mean, walking into a dark cavern, only to have something leap out at you is far better then knowing what's going to leap out at you [14:39] If I ever make a game, there will be no manual. [14:39] <4Chat Moderator> 12yeah [14:39] Everybody knows how to turn the console on. [14:39] well I guess that's where i get my decisision [14:39] Everybody knows how to WALK [14:39] lmao [14:39] sisis [14:39] hope you have a good tutorial [14:39] No need. [14:39] or a none existent learning curve ofcourse [14:39] I can figure out the controls for any game within 5 minutes of gameplay. [14:40] Heh, I think I'm one of the few people who forces themselves to read game manuals from cover to cover before playing a game [14:40] <__T__> I can do it quickly also [14:40] unless its Flight Simulator :P [14:40] Not that hard. [14:40] I saterted that when I kept losing a Pokemon Pinball because I had no idea what I was doing [14:40] <__T__> I nerver look at the manuel unless I have nothign else to do [14:40] Yes [14:40] Hahah. Flight sim. [14:40] thinks he is a hardcore gamer alert! [14:40] i still read the manuals though [14:40] <__T__> Usually it's after I beat the game [14:40] Flight Sims [14:40] how many questions r there gonna b [14:40] GDwarf. I do that aswell. [14:40] Evil [14:40] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12"Cutting Corners" when it comes to manuals and the like is not unique to Nintendo. Every game company, for nearly every game does it. [14:40] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12It's not really all that bad of a thing, if you really think about it. Sure, we don't have all those pretty manuals with all kinds of pictures. But think about why they were there in the first place. In the old games, all you saw were the little sprites, which left quite a lot to imagination. Detail of story and things were fairly sparce in-game across the board. [14:40] the only thing that I read directions (in full) before I played was Axis & Allies board game :P [14:40] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12So, the manuals and things were there to show more of what everything was. But now, you can see it in the game, and don't need all that other jazz to understand. [14:40] Gan0n, I believe it's time-based. [14:40] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12And, of course, they haven't done what SEGA did in the latter days of the Genesis: Stop making nice plastic boxes for the games, and use cardboard cutouts. [14:40] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12As for the games themselves, no, Nintendo is not doing less work than before. Far more, in fact. It's just that the same amount of work equates to less game these days, and that's all people see. [14:41] omg sega did that lmao [14:41] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12hm...to tell you the truth, I don't really care. In my opinion all the games have been quite good, and to me the guides don't really matter. [14:41] Although Scott, the GBA does have cardboard boxes. :P [14:41] But not the Gamecube. [14:41] heh [14:41] I'll be at e3 [14:41] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12yes, we all enjoyed the cool artwork, and I have to admit, even the LA guide had more stuff than the ones today have, but as long as the games are good, should we really care? [14:41] Yeah [14:41] so i hope the promotional disc thing is true [14:41] so did the SNES [14:41] * ZeldaFan44591 (PJIRC@init-A2337AC7.austin.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:41] then again nintendo has done that up until now [14:41] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12done [14:41] cause the DVD style box has become the standard as such. [14:41] I hate you BlackMage :( [14:41] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12Yes I would definatly like to see more care taken over elements of the Zelda franchise like making the manuals more detailed, giving more history background, more maps and developing storyline's of each character's background. [14:41] I wouldn't mind if the GBA had DS-style boxes. [14:41] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12But not at the expense of the actual game obviously. But yup definatly I would like to see the franchise expanded upon in this kind of way. [14:42] i i still fined it funny that they switched to a worse box though [14:42] *find [14:42] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12Is Ninty cutting corners? Well looking at how long Twilight Princess has been in development for my answer to that would have to be a simple NO! Or at least I hope so! [14:42] what you mean? plastic is worse than cardboard? [14:42] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12I too have lamented about the loss of quality in manuals and game guides. I used to sit down and read and reread LA, LTTP, and OoT manuals. I loved looking at the pictures, loved reading the stories. [14:42] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12I would sit down and drawn the items from the item pages, etc., etc. I was a crazy little obsessed kid, in other words. [14:42] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12And the game guides! So much art, so much background, so much of interest! Where has it all gone? [14:42] no [14:42] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Guides and manuals today suck compared to the old ones. But… I don’t mind much. Do you know why? Today, all the detail and art that went into those things is made up elsewhere. [14:42] Eh, although manuals are nice, and I read them, I prefer to learn everything from the game, I've never forgiven Tales of Symphonia for giving away part of the plot in the manual [14:42] Why isn't MNGoldenEagle of Zelda's Secret Ocarina re-opped after being wrongfully kicked? [14:42] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12For world details, the games themselves are much more fleshed out. Art? They release tons more official art these days. Look at The Wind Waker, or the Minish Cap. So much art… [14:42] sega did it the other way went from plastic to cardboard [14:42] I think we should have solid gold boxes and discs for the same prices but its not going to happen ;( [14:42] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12The only real problem is that we now have it all in one style. Before, you’d have official art, and then game guide art, which was clearly done in a different style. Now it’s all the same. [14:43] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Oh, and the artwork in general needs more variety. I don’t need to see images of Link and Ezlo in five hundred million different poses. I want scenery, other characters, backdrops, scenes, interesting stuff that I can make wallpapers out of. [14:43] GDwarf, I don't remember that [14:43] * ZeldaFan63664 (PJIRC@3C469951.823AC4F6.6B14AA0D.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:43] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12In terms of effort on the games themselves? If you look at the main games, I don’t think it’s really gone down at all. If you look at spinoff or less important games, like Four Swords, the MInish Cap, and probably the Phantom Hourglass… [14:43] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12there is definitely a lot less work, time, and care put into them. [14:43] It wasn't a major plot point, simply the symbiotic nature of the two worlds [14:43] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Back to the manuals, I kinda miss the archaic language of the style used in A Link to the Past’s backstory and info. [14:43] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12They may have not done a particularly great job with the translation, but in the end, I think the manual and game were better for it. They wording and info that the American translators used greatly added to my enjoyment of the game. [14:43] But still, they do this big dramatic reveal in the game, but I knew it already [14:43] I totally missed that [14:43] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Wise Men? Awesome. That creation story in LttP backstory? Beautiful. The extra tidbits of info about the book of mudora, prophecies, etc? [14:43] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12I don’t give a damn about the inconsistencies, the game was better for it. [14:43] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12When Aonuma admitted that the ending of WW - gathering the Triforce pieces - was rushed, I was kind of shocked. Shocked, but not surprised, because while I [14:43] * ZeldaFan63664 (PJIRC@3C469951.823AC4F6.6B14AA0D.IP) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:43] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12enjoyed the game, I found it too short. It seemed repetitive in some parts too; I felt as though I was always fighting the same enemies over and over. So [14:43] Nictel, they did, about the two worlds. Although it toke a bit of observation. [14:43] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12yes, I do feel that Nintendo have rushed some things more recently - in comparison with some of the Zelda games. [14:43] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12And don't get me started on the instruction manuals! A beautifully illustrated manual, packed with information, is one of my favourite things, it just [14:44] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12seems to add to the quality and world of the game. Now it seems that the manuals just follow a 'cookie-cutter' format. [14:44] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Hrmm.... well, here's one thing to take into consideration: production costs. LTTP was a sprite-based game using an engine Nintendo's been working with for ages. OOT used a completely redesigned engine, was their first 3-D modeled Zelda game, and took about four years to finish. [14:44] See even the fact that you went to the other world in the game came as a complete surprise to me... [14:44] Well I hoped you would [14:44] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12It was also one of the first games released in a 256-MBit cartridge, which is more expensive. So if they had to cut corners, there was definitely a reason for it. The costs to produce all the material haven't gotten any cheaper, either, and we all saw that E3 video with the intricate setup. That was incredible. [14:44] never thought you'd actually would [14:44] That was my favorite part of TWW. [14:44] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Obviously they have to prioritize their funding, and I'd rather see the game get the funding than the instruction manual. Not to mention the fact that the game can convey more of the story now, so having it in the manual isn't as important anymore. [14:44] I'd've loved to explore more if it, though. [14:44] * Minda (PJIRC@init-6244FF46.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:45] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Well it's the easy way out and people still buy the games> What can we really exspect. We buy mario rehash's over and over, so it proves my point. With Zelda games, they can cut back because it's such a great franchise that the formula works. I am looking forward to Zelda of the Revolution more so then TP honestly, because it will break the lazy mold and cutting corners idea. The manuals need more [14:45] * Xteena (the_zany_g@init-99678515.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:45] * ZeldaFan21483 (PJIRC@init-7E2AFD4C.prov.east.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:45] * Toad064 (Toad064@init-FAD48B2A.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:45] <4Chat Moderator> 12"The manuals need more info, but honestly i don't read" [14:45] Plus, right now, we're in the middle of the Hero of Time mini-saga [14:45] 06hello [14:45] <4The Real Link - Nintendo-Universe.com> 12Yes, but if that is Nintendo2019s weakness I am cool with it. Their greatest strength, making games more then makes up for that. [14:45] and i quote ppl would buy **** if it had the zelda logo on it [14:45] 04better [14:46] fuck [14:46] manuals are good bathroom-reading material :P [14:46] * Sabin was kicked by James (You've been Insta-Kicked(tm) courtesy of Jimbo (Patent Pending).) [14:46] 03yes [14:46] snowman has the right idea [14:46] 03yes [14:46] True [14:46] 03true [14:46] toad, could you cut the colors please [14:46] 03snow true [14:46] When we get a new game that's not based off of the HoT mini saga, then a back story should be included [14:46] <4Chat Moderator> 12okay, GoddessRinoa: go [14:46] why was Sabin kicked? [14:46] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12I just wanted to re-enforce my point about Nintendo coming back from a problematic game. [14:46] o-o [14:46] for using bad language [14:46] Swearing. [14:46] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12Whatever your personal opinion of AoL, it wasn't well received by the public in general, and that's what they had to come back from. Wind Waker, though a good game overall, was extremely controversial and they made a lot of mistakes in its development, and now they're coming back from THAT with TP. [14:46] he used the f word [14:46] 00k [14:46] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12Will TP be another LttP? We shall see. [14:47] thank youi [14:47] 00,01better? [14:47] * Sabin (DKClassic9@init-F4C03573.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:47] -i [14:47] yes [14:47] FUCK SHIT PISS [14:47] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12When half the time, you get games used, without cases and instruction manuals (or from publishers who send you a crude PS2 disc with a super basic label in a paper sleeve) you don't really care about instruction manuals and fancy box art. [14:47] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12That's all I really have to say about that. Next. [14:47] * James sets mode: +b *!DKClassic9@*.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [14:47] * Sabin was kicked by James (James) [14:47] LOL [14:47] * Mess sets mode: +b Sabin!*@* [14:47] 00,01sabin HAHA [14:47] ROFL [14:47] <4Chat Moderator> 12any other takers [14:47] 00,01XD [14:47] <4Chat Moderator> 12? [14:47] LOL [14:47] :) [14:47] I'll be back later. [14:47] Boooooooooo [14:47] and James FTW [14:47] WE WANT SABIN [14:47] haha [14:47] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12I'd like tosee TP come out with something like the deluxe "Guide to Tamriel" that came with the limited edition Oblivion package. [14:47] you're used to these controls and what not ha... i've never done it before [14:47] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12A packed "guide to hyrule" with descriptions of the history, races, characters, etc. leading up to the events of Twilight Princess. [14:47] He's like the comic relief :/ [14:47] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12It'd dwarf aLttP's manual and provide great reading material. [14:47] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12But in the end, we're not playing the manual, we're playing the game. So I'd prefer more time be spent on the latter even if it's at the expense of the former. [14:48] cya Yami [14:48] 00,01Xp [14:48] Not a bad idea, especially if you can get it early via preorder (I'm bored!) [14:48] Like I said [14:48] It's because we're ZSO [14:48] 00,01i play my sp with fusion in the bathroom [14:48] Dinnar [14:48] He's like the comic relief :/ <- And yet you still shun Tingle. For shame. [14:48] * James sets mode: -b *!DKClassic9@*.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [14:48] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12On Nintendo cutting corners in the game on the whole, then yes, I'd have to say that they are. There is no real merchandise in the UK for Zelda, there is next to no promotions to win the games and I can't remember the last time I saw an Advertisment for Zelda. Nintendo, just seem to cut corners in England all the time. It depresses me, as Europe is a huge market for them to utilise on t [14:48] yes but a manual like that would still be awesome! [14:48] Tingle isn't funny. [14:48] :( [14:48] Opinional. [14:48] <4Chat Moderator> 12"as Europe is a huge market for them to utilise on the whole. Yet, it's ignore" [14:48] =P [14:49] 00,01:D [14:49] Archaic Sage: Same here in Canada, We've had, maybe 3 DS commercials [14:49] This would be a great place to troll today wouldn't it. [14:49] Oh, indeed Hazz [14:49] And once we had OoA/OoS commercials [14:49] 00,01( o )__( o ) xD [14:49] o-o [14:49] <4Chat Moderator> 12;)* [14:49] true, we need more Nintendo commercials in general [14:49] boob D: [14:49] OH [14:49] * Hazz checks for GNAA [14:49] well ive seen plenty of nintendo commercials here in the us [14:49] lol [14:49] Yes Europe seems to be ignored commercially [14:49] <_< [14:49] not many zelda ones though [14:49] better? [14:49] hazz, why would they be here? [14:49] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12Yes I totally agree that Europe as a market has been overlooked by Nintendo for way to long, as a resident of the UK we have almost no merchandise Zelda or Nintendo related. I hope that TP remadies this problem! [14:49] yes [14:50] <4Chat Moderator> 12ok [14:50] Yeah, we need more ads in the UK [14:50] hazz, why would they be here? <- Why do people troll anywhere? [14:50] ( o )__( o ) [14:50] is any1 here? [14:50] haha [14:50] hello [14:50] true [14:50] hduiv [14:50] fjg [14:50] gmg [14:50] * Vaati_Princess was kicked by crazysjd89 (crazysjd89) [14:50] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12Nintendo Australia are even worse. Wind Waker came and went with barely a whisper, and merchandise? You've got to be kidding! [14:50] I demand a +m and +v for me! [14:50] no hazz [14:50] :P [14:50] http://www.battlereports.com/viewreports.php?reportnum=5967 That's right folks. Zelda = Nazism [14:50] Lysia, it seems that Japan and the US get ads, nowhere else [14:50] ok forget the /kick command, double click kicks for the remainder [14:50] but japan still gets way more than anyone [14:50] there was that one time during the launch of the GBA Micro were there was loads of ads down town [14:51] <4JC - psloz.com> 122PM Pacfic time? [14:51] Indeed. Double click commands are easier, and I am lazy.>> << [14:51] ok, i thought doing three things at once would be easy [14:51] Zelda is to Nazism as Mario is to Communism? :P [14:51] it isnt [14:51] o-O [14:51] O_o [14:51] just double click the name on the list? or can it be done in-chat? [14:51] It is for me. [14:51] <4JC - psloz.com> 12XD [14:51] Lol SMZ [14:51] mess, you have to make it that way [14:51] if you use XChat, it's in your preferences [14:51] * gan0n08 (PJIRC@init-9A3FC310.satx.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:51] SMZ - Something like that. :D [14:52] my chat client is configured to kick someone with the message "begone foul demon!" if I double click them. [14:52] Ganondorf is Jewish. I would've never known. [14:52] [14:51:33] Zelda is to Nazism as Mario is to Communism? :P <---http://supercommiobrothers.ytmnd.com/ [14:52] <4Chat Moderator> 12Alright [14:52] <4Chat Moderator> 12Question 6 [14:52] ya! [14:52] <4Chat Moderator> 12Taking into account the current trend of Zelda games and Nintendo's [14:52] <4Chat Moderator> 12current position in the market, where do all of you see the Zelda series in [14:52] <4Chat Moderator> 12five years time, and what type of Zelda games will we be playing? [14:52] Hmm...good question [14:52] <4Chat Moderator> 12Leinator will start us off [14:53] * LTC (ruffj05@init-A91F399C.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:53] :o [14:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12We're going to change this question up [14:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12instead of 5 years [14:53] * GDwarf (chatzilla@init-650EADB3.tor.uniserve.ca) Quit (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/2006030804]) [14:53] <4Chat Moderator> 12change it to [14:53] <4Chat Moderator> 1210 years [14:53] Penis. [14:53] * LTC was kicked by James (You've been Insta-Kicked(tm) courtesy of Jimbo (Patent Pending).) [14:53] XD [14:53] haha [14:53] nice [14:53] [19:53] Penis. [14:53] [19:53] * LTC was kicked by James (You've been Insta-Kicked(tm) courtesy of Jimbo (Patent Pending).) [14:53] gah I was going to experiment on him [14:53] * Exadis-NU (exapix@init-2606F85A.ras05.ord01.dial.cogentco.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:53] Ex [14:53] Chris. [14:53] Mess this isn't a laborotory.>> << [14:53] that's my double click kick [14:53] lol [14:53] nice! [14:54] lies [14:54] * LTC (ruffj05@init-A91F399C.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:54] Sorry. [14:54] <4Leinator - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12In short, fun ones. I don't see nintendo seriously changing the forumlae too much, but I'm sure the revolution will grant us quite a few new features to play with. Again, I don't see the game changing in a HUGE way, but as Anouma stated, after TP the series will change, so we'll just have to wait and see. [14:54] Let me guess. It was your brother/sister?>> << [14:54] Let's not get technical. :p [14:54] LTC, add -ZSO to the end of your name so we can be hated as one. [14:54] :D [14:54] :p [14:54] * LTC is now known as LTC-ZSO [14:54] Yay [14:55] the main thing that will changed the zelda formula is revolution [14:55] I've never been here before. [14:55] So, hi. [14:55] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12I personally think that if Ninty know what is best for them they will not edit the formula of the Zelda series much, a little addition from each game to game is the way to go and what they have always done. [14:55] 10 years, we'll be 2 consoles further [14:55] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12I am however extremely worried about the new Rev controller and hope that its application doesnt mess up the zelda series [14:55] * ZeldaFan53102 (PJIRC@init-9A092AD5.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:55] You can still completely alter the story without changing the formula all that much. [14:55] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12I have always found that predicting the future of Zelda is a mistake. Nobody predicted THe Wind Waker. Nobody predicted Majora's Mask. Nobody predicted Twilight Princess. I will simply sit back, and watch, and see. [14:55] * __T__ (PJIRC@init-E5AA177C.mpls.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:55] What's with this chatbot? [14:56] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12That will depend on how much (if any) Nintendo plan to change for Zelda Revolution with their mysterious, "TP will be the last Zelda game as we know it" comment. [14:56] yes so an expansion on even what revolution will change [14:56] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12I don't think we'll be rehashing the same formula over and over by then. In 10 years' time, Zelda will be 30 years old! [14:56] IT is showing us what the zelda webmasters are saying in theo ther room. [14:56] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12It might be a bit stale by then. I would like to see Nintendo keep all of the things we love about Zelda, but keeping the series fresh at the same time. [14:56] <4Chat Moderator> 12;) [14:56] In 10 years 4D will be all the rage [14:56] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12I think Nintendo will be able to survive with the Revolution (won't go into that one), but their financial status might be questionable. I think they'll always devote as much money as they can to Mario and Zelda, but by then it might be too little. [14:56] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12We'll have to show support to Nintendo still if we want to see the Zelda franchise weather any storm Nintendo goes through, because otherwise our beloved series might end up in the hands of, say, Microsoft. And I'd prefer Nintendo over that monopolistic monstrosity any day. :P [14:56] Nice. [14:56] * adam8or (adam8or@init-3851BCB9.popsite.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:57] Well said! [14:57] I'll have to disagree with MN there [14:57] I doubt Nintendo would ever give Zelda away. [14:57] * Nictel thinks MNGoldenEagle hasn't said any sensible thing yet [14:57] nintendo would neve sell out zelda *ignores cd-i situation* [14:57] * Leinator (PJIRC@init-32169644.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:57] Especially to Microsoft. [14:57] Not willingly. They can be bought out through the stock market, though. [14:57] :o [14:57] ... [14:57] * ZeldaFan89292 (PJIRC@init-67DAF79E.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:57] o-o don't make fun of the webmasters [14:57] MN is sensible. [14:57] * Kain is now known as Kain`away [14:57] * JasonRose17-ZSO thinks Nictel is a moron [14:57] * ZeldaFan53102 (PJIRC@init-9A092AD5.wp.shawcable.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [14:57] You're an idiot, sir. [14:57] Nintendo's financial annual report came in and they claimed 800,Million [14:57] Come with something better. :) [14:58] calm down, charlie [14:58] This is before the Revolution [14:58] * James is now known as James-ZU [14:58] i win [14:58] * GDwarf (chatzilla@init-650EADB3.tor.uniserve.ca) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:58] Microsoft has tried to buy out NIntendo before, but NIntendo didn't go along with it. [14:58] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12I think Zelda will be inthe top 3 games across the board in 5 years time. The revolution, to me, is looking like the bright spot of the future and Everyone agrees that Zelda on teh revolution will be truly spectacular. Honestly, Zelda is the one constant that keeps non-nintendo fans still turn there heads and applaud. [14:58] <4The Real Link - Nintendo-Universe.com> 12Very good question, I expect we will see at least three new console games other then Twilight Princess that will do very well on the Revolution and a possible new system. Other then that they will be Zelda and who knows. It is anyone2019s guess where the series goes from here. [14:58] imagine with, they could quite easily earn another 10 billion by 10 years time [14:58] LoS, when was this? [14:58] * ZeldaFan50590 (zuchat@init-E69CE9AE.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) Quit (Quit: ZeldaFan50590) [14:58] Back before the Xbox was revealed. [14:58] yes [14:58] think of narnia [14:58] lol [14:59] if microsoft ever controlled zelda the outcome would be far worse then when phillips made the cd-i games [14:59] Microsoft wanted to use Nintendo as their video game division, basically [14:59] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Virtual Hyrule. [14:59] just after became clear that the N64 wouldn't sell very well [14:59] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I hope we get a VR Hyrule in 10 years. [14:59] when Nintendo didn't go along with it, they created the Xbox and decided to do it themselves [14:59] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12So I can go and live there. [14:59] Wise_Link, I doubt it, if they bought Nintendo they'd leave it mostly as they found it [14:59] and Sony became marktleader [14:59] <4Chat Moderator> 12haha [14:59] lmao TSA. [14:59] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12And then I can get a sword... [14:59] wow, MS buying out Nintendo would be horrible [14:59] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12and beat away n00bs. [14:59] Virtual Hyrule = Insta-Win [14:59] I'd like you to proof, but honestly I don't know where to find it anymore, so it's up to you on whether to believe me or not [14:59] * ZeldaFan66406 (PJIRC@init-E5AA177C.mpls.qwest.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [14:59] * ZeldaFan66406 is now known as __T__ [14:59] TSA, nice, good luck living on that virtual food :P [14:59] link* [14:59] they allready bought Rare and Lionhead [14:59] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12But I probably won't be as good there as I am with the games ;) [14:59] can it become much worst? [15:00] <__T__> I wish I was in the mods chat [15:00] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12Who knows what sort of Zelda games we'll be playing in five years time? Who knew that Ocarina of Time would be the way it is when A Link to the Past came out? In two generations time, we don't know what we'll be playing, for all we know we may be in a virtual reality playing Zelda and attacking anything. [15:00] Alright, I'm bored. [15:00] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12Hopefully, the formula would have changed a little. I don't want to see Ganondorf being taken out, but I know I don't want the same stories, over and over again to be shown, every five years. Majora's Mask was a nice change of the norm, as was The Wind Waker. However, we do need epics like Ocarina of Time every now and again. [15:00] I believe it LoS. [15:00] * LTC-ZSO (ruffj05@init-A91F399C.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) has left #zeldaroundtable [15:00] you have to be a webmaster to do so [15:00] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12I'd like to see some major changes, but in ten years time, I'd hope to still see the same Zelda magic that we're getting at the moment and have been for twenty years. [15:00] Assuming you were referring to me. >_> [15:00] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12To add on to what TSA said, I'd much rather a VR Halo, but that's my opinion... [15:00] * ZeldaFan99359 (PJIRC@950F0288.B9B02226.BF0A2CBE.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:00] . [15:00] ? [15:01] <4F3 - htloz.net> 12In five years Zelda will be a holographic game with virtual reality gloves, online MMO support, 28.1 channel surround sound, and particle glow effects that cause permanent blindness. [15:01] <4F3 - htloz.net> 12Link will travel by means of a jet pack, tote a .50 caliber LMG, and use night vision instead of the Lens of Truth. [15:01] I know we'll have another epic game by 10 years time [15:01] <4F3 - htloz.net> 12Ranches will be replaced with used Hummer dealerships, Kakariko will become a sleepy, iPod-wearing residential area, and the Market will become a dark, film noire city ruled by violent, armed gangs of Dekus. [15:01] Idea: Ganon pulls a Super Mario RPG and goes with the good guys after a greater evil takes hold [15:01] <4F3 - htloz.net> 12The Zoras will move to New Orleans. I'm out. [15:01] psh, 28.2 sound [15:01] I highly doubt Nintendo would ever allow anyone to buy them out. Just because they aren [15:01] t in first place in the market business doesnt mean anything [15:01] <4Chat Moderator> 12XD [15:01] LOL F3 [15:01] <4Chat Moderator> 1228.1 surround sound... haha [15:01] XD [15:01] i doubt that in the futue theyll make a futuriste zelda, as in Link in a jet pack [15:01] * ZeldaFan99359 (PJIRC@950F0288.B9B02226.BF0A2CBE.IP) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:01] wow, they are going all out in this question [15:01] lol [15:01] Exadis-NU: Don't rule out hostile takeover [15:01] <4Chat Moderator> 12XD [15:01] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12I can't even begin to imagine the advancements Zelda will make in the next decade. I mean, just think about the advancements that have been made in this past decade. [15:01] * ZeldaFan27796 (PJIRC@950F0288.B9B02226.BF0A2CBE.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:01] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12Who knows what'll be possible by then? Virtual reality? The very mention of a virtual reality Hyrule puts me into rabid fangirl mode. That's a pretty high expectation, though, I admit. Dare to dream. [15:01] * ZeldaFan89292 (PJIRC@init-67DAF79E.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:02] so, what did I miss? [15:02] * ZeldaFan97533 (PJIRC@init-C8ED6369.resnet.newpaltz.edu) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:02] because link is not in our times, or else he would have a gun [15:02] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12I'm very intrigued by the "TP will be the last Zelda as we know it" comment. What does that mean, exactly? The possibilities are endless. [15:02] Hostile takeover is illegal xD [15:02] a furturistic zelda would blow [15:02] * ZeldaFan90483 (PJIRC@init-4279B6DB.bmly.cable.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:02] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12Over the next decade, Nintendo will keep integrating the motor functions of the player into the game. Today we're just swinging the sword. Tomorrow, wearing the hat. After that: who knows? [15:02] Is it, now... [15:02] Back [15:02] * Knuckles500-ZSO (PJIRC@init-4482C4A2.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:02] GoddessRinoa, I think they were refering to the Rev. Controller [15:02] <4JC - psloz.com> 12It's really hard to say where Zelda is going to be in 10 years. Zelda is a compatible game. There could be alot of themes with it and alot of different ways it can be played. [15:02] back [15:02] In Japan? [15:02] Think Yakuza. [15:02] <4JC - psloz.com> 12I'm leaving it up to Nintendo to decide what they are going to be doing with it in 10 years. [15:03] * adam8or (adam8or@init-3851BCB9.popsite.net) Quit (Quit: initialized ) [15:03] * F3 (chatzilla@init-575F8273.twcny.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/2006030804]) [15:03] * ZeldaFan90483 is now known as Volcanux [15:03] hey again everyone [15:03] <4Chat Moderator> 12Ladies and gentleman: F3 has left the building [15:03] wb [15:03] * adam8or (adam8or@init-3851BCB9.popsite.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:03] indeed [15:03] * Nictel cheers [15:03] * Psy is now known as Psy|brb [15:03] i would hate a first person zelda [15:03] * ZeldaFan26334 (PJIRC@init-A731848.cable.ubr01.live.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:03] * ZeldaFan11111 (PJIRC@init-A731848.cable.ubr01.live.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:04] Clones [15:04] I'd dislike first person simply because combat would have to change [15:04] [03:03:37 pm] Zelda in the future, eh? The Legend of Zelda: XXX [15:04] [03:03:41 pm] Er...I mean... [15:04] [03:03:42 pm] With the release of the Revolution coming up, I'm sure we'll be playing Zelda games in a completely different style. Even Miyamoto (I think...or Aonuma) has said that Twilight Princess will be the last Zelda game of it's kind, before it begins to head down a new road. There's no telling what that means, though. Does that include different storyline, different gameplay, or wha [15:04] [03:03:42 pm] eve in 5 years, which will probably have seen the release of a few more consoles, other than the Revolution, I think we'll still be sitting down to play the latest Zelda game, and enjoying it, no matter how different it is than Ocarina of Time, or Twilight Princess for that matter. [15:04] <4Chat Moderator> 12I pasted it [15:04] why? Metroid Prime came out in first person and was awesome [15:04] <4Chat Moderator> 12i'll fix it [15:04] yeah a first person zelda would suck [15:04] I think Nintendo would of moved into the multiplayer scene for zelda, even if it was just co-op offline [15:04] <4Chat Moderator> 12yes [15:04] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12In 10 years time, as far as the story would go, i dont see much changing, i mean in the last 20 years, has the story changed that much any way ? As far as the Game play i think it will be totally different, i mean look at the revolution and its capabilities, shall we actually be swinning a swrod and blocking with a plastic sheild ? Or will we have a mask we put on our face and we are in the gam [15:04] * YamiZoe-ZSO (baumgartne@init-10CA4482.pool.t-online.hu) Quit (Quit: ) [15:04] * ZeldaFan11111 is now known as shaun [15:04] * shaun is now known as skullkiddude [15:04] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12I'd love a Virtual Hyrule, TSA... And a virtual Halo... but that's not the topic of debate. [15:04] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12And F3, you forgot the Gorons dealing rock. [15:04] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12Ten years should be enough time to give us a few more games on the major console (Revolution, or whatever else may crop up in that time), and lord only knows how many for DS and things. [15:04] * ZeldaFan26334 (PJIRC@init-A731848.cable.ubr01.live.blueyonder.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:04] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12I doubt very much that Zelda will delve into the realm of Mario, just because people will not react very kindly to "Zelda Party" released along with "Mario Part 2883" (and that's not meant to be a year). [15:04] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12At the 30 year point of Zelda, there very well may be a shift in the gameplay mechanics. At the same time, there might not. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." [15:05] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12And although it's not exactly relating to the question, GoldenEagle mentioned something about Microsoft... a thing to note about Nintendo as compared to its competitors is that (discounting the other divisions of the companies) Nintendo is far, far more profitable than Microsoft's Xbox division and all its game companies, AND sony's version. [15:05] * ZeldaFan27796 (PJIRC@950F0288.B9B02226.BF0A2CBE.IP) Quit (Ping timeout) [15:05] lol gorons dealing rock that priceless [15:05] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12Nintendo's not on its death bed, and I doubt it will be for many years. [15:05] <4Chat Moderator> 12Okay [15:05] lol [15:05] <4Chat Moderator> 12that concludes the first round [15:05] <4Chat Moderator> 12anyone have anything to add? [15:05] Round 2 [15:05] FIGHT [15:05] lol [15:05] * Psy|brb is now known as Psy [15:05] haha [15:05] I CHALLENGE YOU TO MORTAL KOMBAT [15:05] Scott: To add to that, Nintendo made over $800 000 000(US) in profits last year [15:05] Fatality! [15:05] KO! [15:05] how many rounds are there? [15:05] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12I just want to say that this has been an enormous pleasure for me. I haven't had this much fun in a long time. [15:05] Nice one, Psy. [15:05] 3 rounds [15:05] FINISH HIM PLZ [15:05] And the DS has Outsold both the GBA and PSP [15:05] *outsold [15:05] I didn't feel like giving statistics, GDwarf, but yeah. [15:05] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12I want to thank TSA for arranging this, and giving our Zelda community a chance to be brought closer together. [15:06] I think I lose by falling a sleep [15:06] Thirty Minute BReak [15:06] * skullkiddude (PJIRC@init-A731848.cable.ubr01.live.blueyonder.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:06] Flawless Victory! [15:06] <4Chat Moderator> 12Okay [15:06] <4Chat Moderator> 12We are going to take a short intermission [15:06] <4GoddessRinoa - Zelda-Infinite.com> 12I'm afraid I must go. Life's getting in the way. It was a real pleasure participating in this. [15:06] oh I hate when this lags! [15:06] How short is a short intermission? [15:06] <4Chat Moderator> 12some of us need to... uh... use some utilities [15:06] <4Chat Moderator> 12and [15:06] <4Chat Moderator> 12er [15:06] GO TSA THIS CHAT WAS TEH PWN0RZ!!! [15:06] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12And I also want to thank my fellow webmasters, for going through the time to participate. It's awsome being abel to discuss this intellligently, in real time... [15:06] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12with so many people. [15:06] <4Chat Moderator> 12wait, shit this is going into the public room XD [15:06] ... [15:06] Yes, it is. [15:06] heh [15:06] * Nictel congratulates Scott as winner and says the rest of the webmasters stink :-P [15:06] XD oops [15:06] OMG BAD WORD! :O [15:06] QUICKLY EVERYONE! [15:06] <-- Chat Moderator [15:06] XD [15:06] haha [15:06] COPY THE CHATLOG! [15:06] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12I won't be back to the next round, so you guys had better save a nice transcript ;) [15:06] QUICKLY! KICK HIM! [15:06] GET IT DOWN FOR BLACKMAIL! [15:07] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 1230 mins [15:07] ... [15:07] * Jordan (Luigi@init-D9586315.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:07] kick the moderator! [15:07] wait, shit this is going into the public room XD <- BAN! [15:07] *screenshots* [15:07] I wouldn't mind a transcript, I missed the first two 1/2 rounds [15:07] He said the s word :o [15:07] <4Chat Moderator> 12Er [15:07] XD [15:07] haha [15:07] how much longer will the round table be from now? [15:07] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12Have fun, guys. [15:07] they're above the law you follow [15:07] 30 mins [15:07] Cya LoS [15:07] Have fun, guys. [15:07] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12And we'll have to do this again after E3, TSA. [15:07] all the webmasters will post the transcript on their respective sites [15:07] <4Lord of Shadow - ZeldaLegends.net> 12I'll dedicate more time next time [15:07] He is setting a bad example Mess [15:08] <4Chat Moderator> 12I'll be turning the transfer script off for the duration of the break. But first, the seventh question will be.... [15:08] <4Chat Moderator> 12What are the benefits of moving Twilight Princess to the Revolution, keeping it on [15:08] <4Chat Moderator> 12GCN-only, or having it cross-system? [15:08] They are god. You are the peasent. Lol [15:08] Corrupting my innocent mind [15:08] will they? [15:08] that's his choice [15:08] so just drop it [15:08] * ZeldaFan47837 (PJIRC@init-F88D943.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) Quit (Quit: Goodbye.) [15:08] * Jordan (Luigi@init-D9586315.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Buh-bye) [15:08] then why am I here as I can read it later [15:08] Good question [15:08] So that you can make insightful comments? [15:08] Why ARE you here? [15:08] How long is intermission? [15:08] Because you have no life. [15:08] Oh, wait [15:08] 30 mins I think [15:08] intermission: 30 mins [15:08] 30 minutes. [15:08] * lord-of-shadow (lordyshado@init-52F75F58.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: ) [15:08] 30 minutes [15:08] ok, I gotta go have dinner [15:08] bbl [15:08] 30 min [15:09] Who eats at 3:10 [15:09] 29 minutes :P [15:09] Oh...Yeah...Timezones [15:09] Teh Brittain. [15:09] Britain* [15:09] * Mess is now known as Mess|AFK [15:09] 28 min with 46 esecs [15:09] * Nictel hits himself on the head [15:09] I'm here because I thought it would be interesting. So far all I see are noob comments with occasional webmaster talk that I can't even reply to. :( [15:09] * Nictel (Nictel@init-F08615A5.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) Quit (Quit: ) [15:09] while the intermission takes place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [15:09] <__T__> Amen Jason Rose [15:09] Then leave no one cares. [15:09] ... [15:09] <__T__> I agree, it sucks [15:09] don't kill the chat with !'s [15:09] http://www.psloz.com/index.php?page=cof.htm [15:09] go to it [15:09] JasonRose17-ZSO: Why can't you reply? [15:09] oh gnoes! [15:09] * Dabombster (PJIRC@init-C1D2596E.slkc.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:10] Sorry i just got back... how long is the intermission for? [15:10] well i have been commenting on what they have been saying [15:10] Because they're in another room? [15:10] i think that was the whole point [15:10] ...they are also in here [15:10] * BlackMage changes topic to 'In intermission' [15:10] Fine, you want Q & A? I'll fix up my transcript later. I'll answer some random questions. [15:10] that also has to do with just a ton of people posting somewhat insightful stuff all at the same time, nobody catches everything everyone says [15:10] We did say that we wouldn't be able to respond to you guys here. [15:10] I need my Zelda fix... [15:10] If you have nothing goof to say about that chat, Leave, No one will care. If all you see is noob talk and you can read what the webmasters say later, Then dont sit here and be douchs. [15:10] *plays ALttP* [15:10] JasonRose17-ZSO: They read this room too [15:10] I may actually take some user questions a bit later if anyone feels like answering them [15:11] I've got 21 questions but i'm iffy on some of 'em whether i want to ask them [15:11] If we responded to every comment, we'd never get through the questions. [15:11] Feth if I know what 95% of the discussion in here was. [15:11] Sure they won't answer individual comments, but that was mentioned from the start [15:11] Aww, Exadis is trying to make me leave. How cute. :3 [15:11] 21 question? [15:11] * Mess is now known as Mess|AFK <- THROW OF THE SACKLES OF OPPRESSION [15:11] and we only did 7? [15:11] I don't even know you. I'm just saying. [15:11] * ZeldaFan27613 (PJIRC@init-CEA826F8.ek.shawcable.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:11] So, given the opportunity to actually ask questions, you choose not to? Okay. I'll work on my trnascript, then. [15:11] We are free brothers! [15:11] haha [15:12] Are you really a Koriki? [15:12] I'll answer questions during the intermission, though. [15:12] how do we add +m? [15:12] I've got nothing better to do. [15:12] * __T__ (PJIRC@init-E5AA177C.mpls.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:12] I doubt that! [15:12] Wow, 5 questions took 3 1/4 hours, 21 is.. well, another 13.5 hours [15:12] What's a koriki? [15:12] You are a liar Mess [15:12] * ZeldaFan97533 (PJIRC@init-C8ED6369.resnet.newpaltz.edu) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:12] A LIAR [15:12] why do you want +m, Mess? [15:12] 2 hour, actually. [15:12] Add a moderator? [15:12] Your name reads AFK [15:12] No [15:12] so there's no "bad words" while we're in intermission [15:12] +m isn't moderator. [15:12] * The_Real_Link looks around. [15:12] You can't speak without vop [15:12] unless you're chillin' around [15:12] We'll be here until 4am :P [15:12] Oh. [15:12] * Kokiri sets mode: +G [15:12] there. No bad words. [15:13] now then... [15:13] wow time flys when ppl are saying some every .4 seconds [15:13] I was guessing randomly. [15:13] *something [15:13] * Twilight-Prince (PJIRC@init-CEDAAE4.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Quit: Goodbye.) [15:13] * ZeldaFan99681 (PJIRC@init-CEDAAE4.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:13] Can I test it Koriki? [15:13] >.> [15:13] *Kokiri [15:13] . Does it work? [15:13] koriki?!? [15:13] Yep. [15:13] lmao [15:13] * ZeldaFan64235 (zuchat@init-95F1D42.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:13] Okay. [15:14] * ZeldaFan64235 (zuchat@init-95F1D42.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: ZeldaFan64235) [15:14] i dont Like Majora's Mask... [15:14] ... [15:14] ... [15:14] reminds me of someone who called the kokiri "kokerikian" in a thread once. [15:14] ... [15:14] Must...resist...urge...to kill... [15:14] Majora's Mask rocked! [15:14] indeed [15:14] I like Majora's Mask too! [15:14] Majora's Mask > You. [15:14] MM = best atmosphere [15:14] its got a nice feel about it [15:14] It's my favorite one... [15:15] ...Well, its good, i just dont like the whole "time going by thing" [15:15] * Damian is now known as Damian|away [15:15] yeah, like a "hurry the heck up before the toon kills you" feel to it :P [15:15] *moon [15:15] yes i agree with Koriki :P that was a joke by the way to people spelling Kokiri wrong! [15:15] adam8or, you can't beat a dungeon in 2.5 hours? [15:15] Toon. XD [15:15] ok, be back when his starts again [15:15] XP [15:15] *You can't beat one of MM's dunegons in... [15:15] slow down time, it gives you forever [15:15] Windows XP? [15:15] although, the kid saying "kokerikian" wasn't joking. [15:15] i know, [15:16] * ZeldaFan32173 (PJIRC@init-E5AA177C.mpls.qwest.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:16] * ZeldaFan32173 is now known as __T__ [15:16] but still.... its telling you to play faster!! [15:16] How? [15:16] i like to beat a dungeon 100% [15:16] The game's plot sucked. period. [15:16] * Xteena (the_zany_g@init-99678515.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) Quit (Quit: http://irc.initialized.org) [15:16] Lies [15:16] I prefer that to the other Zeldas where they say "You have limited time", and then let you run around doing nothing for years [15:16] MM pwned [15:16] * KamakaziPlumber (PJIRC@init-6660F78D.mia.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:16] And you can't do that with over 3+ hours? [15:16] and sometimes it takes time to beat a game 100% [15:16] * ZeldaFan80902 (PJIRC@init-6660F78D.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:16] <__T__> I liek MM [15:16] Slowing down time gives you around 6 hours. [15:17] so do i, it rocked [15:17] Psy, with the Song of Time played backwards you got 2.5 hours [15:17] it was an interesting diversion from the awesome OoT [15:17] Does it? [15:17] I thought it cut time in half [15:17] Seriously? [15:17] well... thats mhy i like Ocarina of Time more, cuz i can take my time if i want to [15:17] * Xteena (the_zany_g@init-99678515.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:17] wayhey [15:17] I guess the plot sucked because it wasn't about Ganon kidnapping Zelda like the other games before it. [15:17] Song of Inverted time doubles your time. [15:17] * ZeldaFan80902 (PJIRC@init-6660F78D.mia.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:17] i was able to bring my dinner up here [15:17] I'll have to find that scarecrow quote [15:17] I thought it was an hour a day normally. [15:17] and i also got beer :D [15:17] not as good as OoT, but still it was great (MM is what i'm talking about) [15:17] The story was messed up. So the Lost woods led to another dimension where everyone is the same but they do diffrent things? [15:17] Retarted. [15:17] Psy, sorry, I mean that the inverted song of time slows time, 2 minutes to the hour, as opposed to one [15:17] and saving is anoying [15:17] * ZeldaFan74900 (PJIRC@init-A81F52A1.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:18] <__T__> Exadis: wow. that was an icredible ignorant comment [15:18] Or at least, that's what I thought [15:18] I could say the same about LA [15:18] I see. [15:18] true [15:18] 9on Majora's Mask) [15:18] Then the time thing was incredibly annoying. Losing all your money and such. [15:18] THough I still beat the game. [15:18] Just annoyed me [15:18] just go to the bank and deposit it [15:18] not hard [15:18] And yeah, Exadis, OoT: A sword knocks you out so that the world gets conquered by a guy who turns itno a big, retarded, no? [15:18] my main problem with mm was it didnt have the same zelda feel that makes zelda enjoyable for me [15:19] ya lol [15:19] Just for kicks, I'm going to time it right now to see how long a day is normally and with SoIT. [15:19] MM was one of my first Zelda games. [15:19] * ZeldaFan74900 is now known as Kyougou [15:19] *into a pig [15:19] Plus my favorite. [15:19] Psy, just time one hour, multiply by 76 [15:19] Wise_Link Exatly what I mean [15:19] Oh goody the great OoT/MM debate. [15:19] it's 76 minutes, then [15:19] Not with the SoIT [15:20] ah [15:20] <__T__> Is the roundtable over? [15:20] that makes it longer, we're trying to remember how much [15:20] OoT was far superior to MM. [15:20] MM is so much faster and quick than MM [15:20] i dont see why mm is ignored by nintendo though it was still good in its own right [15:20] __T__, not yet, it's an intermission [15:20] OoT* [15:20] seriously, i believe each game should be considered great so stop the debate it's stupid [15:20] <__T__> Ohhhhh,ok [15:20] Yeah, OoT is WAY better than MM [15:20] __T__ Love is over :( [15:20] <__T__> Thanks [15:20] MM interaction wise is better then Oo [15:20] <__T__> Love is over? [15:20] Not really...the CD-i and Oracle Series sucked. [15:20] They should be starting again in, what, 15 minutes? [15:20] <__T__> Noooooooooo!lol! [15:20] Yes [15:20] well yes, but i didn't mean those games [15:20] I loved the Oracle series [15:20] * ZeldaFan94684 (PJIRC@init-1D418BD2.lft.bellsouth.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:20] the CD-i games did suck [15:20] Pfftt...it sucks. [15:20] Hey, *I* liked the oracles [15:20] they always talk about oot when telling us when tp takes place or when talking about more recent zeldas [15:21] It acted as if MM didn't even happen. [15:21] they always ignore mm... [15:21] * ZeldaFan52098 (PJIRC@init-77E9ACBF.nt.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:21] They were the first Zelda games I ever played [15:21] OoT > MM anyday of the week. But they are all great games and deserve a lot of respect. [15:21] http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/darkhazz/1145129313898.jpg [15:21] The oracles were better then MM :D [15:21] LBC > OoT [15:21] Now you're just trying to annoy me. [15:21] There I disagree Exadis [15:21] * ZeldaFan94684 is now known as Hirohiigo [15:21] thbuger off [15:21] <__T__> I played OoT first then my firend got MM andI played it there [15:21] bugger* [15:21] * ZeldaFan52098 is now known as Kilafer [15:21] MM pwned oracles [15:21] Holy crap., [15:21] * ZeldaFan27613 is now known as Prophecy [15:21] It's HT. [15:21] indeed [15:21] LBC wins [15:21] Hey all. [15:21] DOn't get me wrong, MM was a good game. It just wasnt nearly as good as the others. [15:21] I think MM is just a vision Link has. [15:21] It is way better than OoT [15:22] only good zelda game capcom made was tmc [15:22] They just put some crappy plot on the engine for OoT [15:22] * Psy is now known as Psy|Timing [15:22] Crappy plot, eh? [15:22] Yes. [15:22] I disagree the oracles were fun [15:22] What made it crappy? [15:22] yeah, I played OoT first, and then Majora's Mask, but both games were already out when i played OoT [15:22] zelda isnt exactly a series with great plots as it is... [15:22] I think it should be mentioned that these are all opinions. There is no such thing as a BETTER game, except with the CD-i's. EVERYTHING was better than those things. [15:22] Because it didn't have Ganon or Zelda? [15:22] Crappy plot? A moon crashing into a town and you only have a few days to complete it is crappy? [15:22] OoT's plot was pretty simple in comparison: Ganon has the Triforce and Zelda, get them back [15:22] Because it was DIFFERENT? [15:22] good, but simple [15:22] The fact the moon was crashing into the world. And you were timed to do everything, And that when you saved you lost all your ammo and money. [15:23] ALttP will always be my second favorite of the Zelda games. [15:23] The masks were cool though [15:23] espeicaially FD [15:23] what? [15:23] it was only money [15:23] alttp is the best imo [15:23] I hate Zelda [15:23] then leave [15:23] <__T__> I like all of them [15:23] I'm sick of people complaining about the time limit. [15:23] All Zelda games are rubbish [15:23] You lost ammo to. [15:23] i dont know why some people hated the Sailing in The Wind Waker [15:23] Etc etc [15:23] and if you weren't a n00b you would of put it in the bank [15:23] You were timed in Super Mario Bros. [15:23] <__T__> Aside from the Oracle seires [15:23] MM's story was rather interesting, with the whole Link going to save a separate dimension. [15:23] * eazyseph (eazyseph@init-844B8EE7.dsl.mindspring.com) has left #zeldaroundtable [15:23] You were timed in Sonic [15:23] because it was over uses [15:23] Yeah, ALWAYS timed [15:23] a few seconds in Termina Field got you back enough ammo to last you [15:23] I liked fighting Majora. [15:24] * ZeldaFan32136 (PJIRC@init-414E1E0.l.pppool.de) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:24] I put it in the bank, But why cant you just SAVE? It had to be stupid. [15:24] He was a wee bit too easy as Fierce Deity. [15:24] No duh. [15:24] Majora's easy as Fierce Deity. [15:24] way too easy [15:24] yeah it was fun fighting the dancing form [15:24] You were timed in Sonic <- Completely different games [15:24] yeah, FD made it easy [15:24] So? [15:24] I'd love Clock Town to be an MMORPG. [15:24] still easy without the mask but a lot more reasonable for a final boss fight [15:24] Thats like saying you were timed in street fighter [15:24] * Dark (Darkness@init-844B8EE7.dsl.mindspring.com) Quit (Quit: BYE EVERYONE, THE CHATROOM IS DEAD!!!!) [15:25] I Liked The Wind Waker more then MM [15:25] The time doesn't really matter in MM, as you can go back in time. [15:25] Haha [15:25] <__T__> All the bosses in LTTP were easy [15:25] so whos up for timeline discussion [15:25] lol [15:25] WW was way better then MM [15:25] Agree'd. [15:25] i agree [15:25] TWW is one of my Fav. Games (OoT is #1) [15:25] <__T__> I say there is no timeline [15:25] I believe in a single timeline [15:25] I believe in the branching timeline theory. [15:25] If it wasn't for the ending which saved TWW, TWW would of uber sucked [15:25] I agree with the guy with T in his name [15:25] <__T__> I subscribe to the loop theory [15:25] __T__ [15:25] it would of come under the 'failed attempt' category [15:25] * ZeldaFan17214 (PJIRC@init-3B658839.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:25] NO! [15:25] Ok..time for a timeline discussion. [15:25] i dont see why nintendo doesnt just reaveal the timeline [15:26] i agree actually, though as i said all zelda games have different strong points (apart from CD-i games which just sucked) the thing i hated with WW was the whole Tri-force shard business. [15:26] No it wouldn't of. [15:26] I am going to BEst Buy, I will be back in maybe an hour, maybe 2. [15:26] I'm a big supporter of the multi-dimensions after Link travelled through time. [15:26] WW was pretty original with the sailing concept :) [15:26] I disliked OoT [15:26] * ZeldaFan17214 is now known as Trinbadman [15:26] * crazysjd89 (PJIRC@init-9AF6581A.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Goodbye.) [15:26] Wind Waqker had a great Story and Gameplay and Everything [15:26] WW's sailing was a bit too... repetitive [15:26] The whole game rocked. Why dont you like it because of the graphics?] [15:26] You WHAT?! How can you not like OoT? [15:26] <__T__> Amen Hiro [15:26] they would still have plenty of freedom in creating the games with a timeline in place [15:26] I think Link is incarnated in WW. [15:26] Because I played MM [15:26] gg [15:26] Its called not being a fanboy [15:26] * Prophecy (PJIRC@init-CEA826F8.ek.shawcable.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:26] Link is rencarnated in every game I think [15:26] <__T__> How bout' we get into a serious discussion of the menaing of life? [15:26] It is Impossible not to like OoT! [15:26] gg <- GoodGame [15:26] *? [15:26] * ZeldaFan12781 (PJIRC@init-DEA8A2FA.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:26] oot is a little over rated [15:26] Wind waker's story was alright, game engine was awesome, but it felt rushed at the end [15:26] ya rly [15:26] Greatest. Game. Of. All. Time. Trust me, I know these things. [15:26] Ok...life means...it sucks. [15:26] what's being argued about now? [15:26] * Link_of_Hyrule (PJIRC@init-F8D07D18.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [15:27] The actial ending ending was great, though [15:27] <__T__> How bout' we get into a serious discussion of the menaing of life? <- 42 [15:27] __t_ 42 [15:27] yeah i agree, i just hated the tri-force shard business in WW [15:27] I said it...life sucks. [15:27] Sailing was Fun, it didnt seem like work to me.. [15:27] <__T__> But what's the question? [15:27] There. [15:27] Nice one Exadis ;) [15:27] yeah that was boring [15:27] 42 isn't the meaning of life. [15:27] possibly one of the best endings in Zelda [15:27] <__T__> _________ = 42 [15:27] It's the answer to life, the universe, and everything. [15:27] and with the Balad of gales, it was easy [15:27] <__T__> What is the blank? [15:27] Not the meaning. [15:27] no, no. 42 is the answer, not the meaning [15:27] the meaning of life is to live [15:27] and go forth [15:27] AHHHHHHHHHHHHH. *Goes insane from reading so much text. [15:27] Menaing of life [15:27] So long and thanks for all the fis [15:27] *fish [15:27] <__T__> Dolphins [15:28] Im outtie. [15:28] The Meaning of Life is to play zelda [15:28] * Kyougou (PJIRC@init-A81F52A1.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:28] and for nintendo it was to make zelda [15:28] lol [15:28] and metal gear solid :D, i love those games also [15:28] lol [15:28] and for me it was to leave temporarily and eat lunch [15:28] hideo kojima is a genius [15:28] brb [15:28] MGS rocks. [15:28] <__T__> Ok, that was fun, how bout' whehther or not bush is a good leader. For sony it was to envy zelda [15:28] the meaning of life is to think about the meaning of life [15:28] So, regarding the game discussion, WW's sailing was an awesome idea, but I HATED sailing all around just to get from one island to the next. The Great Sea was too blank: there should've been more islands. [15:28] * ZeldaFan12781 (PJIRC@init-DEA8A2FA.asm.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:28] lol [15:28] and there should have been more NPCs [15:28] For sony it was to envy zelda <- You really have no idea what your talking about do you? [15:29] There was an island every square O.o [15:29] No there wasn't. [15:29] anyone here like castlevania? [15:29] Was to [15:29] No, there really wasn't. [15:29] yes there was [15:29] They were just small. [15:29] * ZeldaFan57320 (PJIRC@init-F8D07D18.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:29] <__T__> YEs ther was [15:29] yeah there was an Island every square [15:29] <__T__> I remember [15:29] Not that I saw. [15:29] yeah for tww [15:29] <__T__> I mapped them all out [15:29] * ZeldaFan57320 is now known as Link_of_Hyrule [15:29] and use the Balad of Gales to sail faster [15:29] some just didnt have people on it [15:29] I travelled the entire sea and only half the map had islands. [15:29] Yes there was because the fish was by the islands and i filled out the whole map [15:29] although not all of them were technically islands [15:30] That's what I mean. Islands that have meaning, not just hunks of land. [15:30] * DarthButcher (chatzilla@init-28003C5D.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:30] ... [15:30] Hello. [15:30] Well, There islands all the same :D [15:30] I consider a piece of land different from an island. [15:30] only a couple had nothing [15:30] yeah like the reefs [15:30] I don [15:30] Brb. [15:30] hey DB :) [15:30] I live on an island [15:30] For all that are interested: http://digg.com/gaming/First_Castelvania_PoR_screens_ [15:30] like the 5 star isle [15:30] For sony it was to envy zelda [15:30] yes i saw that [15:30] And theres like several islands by my island. [15:30] * ZeldaFan57644 (PJIRC@init-85703B1E.bna.bellsouth.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:30] <__T__> I hate sony [15:30] Wrong copy and paste [15:30] I am only on for a few, as I am going to play Counter-Strike Source. [15:30] http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/darkhazz/1145107803226.jpg [15:30] game looks awesome [15:30] There all islands even though they have no point [15:30] <__T__> With a passion [15:31] <__T__> I hate sony <-FANBOY ALERT [15:31] Sony discontinued the AIBOs. They can go to he**. [15:31] why hate sony? when you can hate XBOX? not MS) [15:31] i dont mind sony, just not micro$ :P [15:31] <__T__> I'm not a fanboy, I hate eveyrthing Nintendo does aside from Zelda [15:31] I hate Microsoft. [15:31] <__T__> And I hate Microsoft because I'm an Apple user [15:31] man u hate everything then [15:31] Xbox, Playstation both suck [15:31] And Windows sucks to. [15:31] Problem with Nintendo [15:31] Then your a Zelda fanboy __T__ [15:31] Too much Mario [15:31] I hate microsoft [15:31] i love my xbox. i love my ps2. [15:31] <__T__> I guess [15:31] im a apple user aswell! [15:31] i hate microsoft and bill gates [15:31] what mac you got? [15:31] Is there anything wrong with being a fanboy/fangirl? [15:31] * ZeldaFan02366 (PJIRC@init-32169644.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:31] so.. all you play is zelda? [15:31] By the way this is Zeldaforever [15:31] i have a power mac G5 [15:31] * Trinbadman (PJIRC@init-3B658839.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:31] Holy crap... [15:31] We would appreciate some Diggs if you like the screens. [15:31] <__T__> I've got a Powerbook [15:31] * Psy|Timing is now known as Psy [15:31] i love all my systems. even the 32x with 2 good games [15:32] theres nothing wrong with sony [15:32] agreed [15:32] yes there is [15:32] nope [15:32] agreed [15:32] capn: Do you have a VB? [15:32] Zeldafan: /nick ENTERYOURNICKEHERE [15:32] their in league with barney [15:32] there isn't really that much wrong with them [15:32] GDwarf... [15:32] <__T__> I just don't like them cause they don't reallt have any of their own franchises [15:32] just micro$oft and its evil leader [15:32] * ZeldaFan57644 is now known as Zeldaforever [15:32] its not THE BEST but sony is cool [15:32] i love all my systems. even the 32x with 2 good games <- CD-i? [15:32] hahaha [15:32] <__T__> Aside from like Crash Bandocute [15:32] Yeah? [15:32] yep my forum name [15:32] vb? nah... its ipb [15:32] * ZeldaFan02366 (PJIRC@init-32169644.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:32] A regular game is 1 hour and 6 minutes. SoIT is 2 hours and 42 minutes. [15:32] capncornflake: Do you have a VIRTUAL BOY? [15:32] I could've sworn is was longer than that. [15:32] the old crash games were good [15:32] oh! haha [15:32] imagine a Apple game console :P, that'd be weird [15:33] Ah, so could I [15:33] actually there was one [15:33] virtual boy... not yet [15:33] i need to aquire one [15:33] i got emulators... :) [15:33] whats SoIT> [15:33] ebay [15:33] Back. [15:33] CANT WAIT FOR TP AND PH!!!!!!!!! [15:33] Song of Intverted Time [15:33] I almost got one. [15:33] oh [15:33] Inverted* [15:33] <__T__> I use emulators [15:33] I used to have a virtual boy [15:33] Lol [15:33] My mom decided to say no. [15:33] who wants to know whare to get the bast games for free [15:33] They would have sold it to me for $10! [15:33] <__T__> to play anythign older then my GC [15:33] $10! [15:33] Best games for free? Simple. [15:33] Without the tripod, though. [15:33] Internet. [15:33] I broke my virtual boy,,, [15:33] duh [15:33] The ammount of fanboy's in this channel actually surpises me [15:33] i didnt get a virutal boy cause my parents said it caused seizures [15:33] but the sitname [15:33] Guys, did you hear about Revolution getting DBZ Budokai Tenkiachi II [15:33] no [15:33] everything causes seizures [15:33] Yes [15:33] <__T__> There's aren't to many fanboys are there? [15:33] ? [15:34] <__T__> I haven't noticed that many [15:34] Its a rumor though [15:34] >_> I'm a fanboy. [15:34] really [15:34] Zelda 4 lyphe lol [15:34] i didnt get a virutal boy cause my parents said it caused seizures <- Pokemon did that [15:34] Im a fanboy. [15:34] but seriously, to all you ps2/xbox haters, you're just denying yourselves some kickass games just to be a fanboy. [15:34] yeah [15:34] im a fanboy [15:34] Who here hates Sony? [15:34] there is no practical advantage to being a fanboy [15:34] it was called the porygon episode [15:34] no [15:34] Sony's cool. [15:34] it isnt a rumour [15:34] well they thought it was virtual boy too [15:34] about to resume [15:34] its now confirmed [15:34] <__T__> I acutally don't play very many video games [15:34] I dont hate PS2 [15:34] and they named one of the suckiest ones after it [15:34] Or Mircosoft? [15:34] check ign [15:34] Just xbox :D [15:34] few mins [15:34] Microsoft sucks. [15:34] <__T__> I hardly play any now [15:34] i hate psp [15:34] * MNGoldenEagle (MNGoldenEa@init-C537ACBF.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) has left #zeldaroundtable [15:34] But I own an Xbox anyway. [15:34] yeah [15:34] ninty>sony>micro$oft [15:34] capn, I intend to buy a PS2 come the PS3, But all the good XBox games are available for PC [15:34] Sony developes awesome games [15:34] <__T__> Until Zelda comes out I won't be playign any [15:34] psp is a friggin gameboy knockoff [15:34] Because there are a couple good games on the Xbox. [15:34] Microsoft sucks. <- Fanboy spotted [15:35] Well, I am out [15:35] * JasonRose17-ZSO (JR@init-DCACD275.asm.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: Don't cry. I'll be back.) [15:35] Adios. [15:35] * writersblock (PJIRC@init-CF3A9E63.mia.bellsouth.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [15:35] same here dwarfy [15:35] i HATE NOTING, i just like Nintendo the most, the Plastation, and dislike XBOX [15:35] Please give us a Digg: http://digg.com/gaming/First_Castelvania_PoR_screens_ [15:35] Well, no, I'm serious. Microsoft is a horrible game developer. [15:35] * DarthButcher (chatzilla@init-28003C5D.ph.ph.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/2006030804]) [15:35] *then [15:35] I think all 3 consoles are the pwn [15:35] * Kilafer (PJIRC@init-77E9ACBF.nt.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:35] The only thing they have going for them is the fact that they have an internal hard drive. [15:35] <__T__> Microsoft is a horrible company period [15:35] I'm very disappointed with my Xbox. [15:35] and bungie [15:35] the only people able to afford the psp without killing himself is a dealer lol [15:35] Do MS actually create games? I thought they got 2nd parties to do it [15:35] and live [15:35] microsoft made your computer [15:35] 3rd parties. [15:35] they get 2nd parties mostly [15:35] * ZeldaFan18866 (PJIRC@init-414E1E0.l.pppool.de) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:35] The 2nd party is the consumer. [15:35] MICROSOFT DONT MAKE COMPUTERS [15:35] wtf [15:36] GOD! [15:36] <__T__> No they didn't, Apple invented the first personaly computer [15:36] Not if your on a Mac [15:36] thereyeah they do [15:36] microsoft didnt make your PC [15:36] Zeldaforever: Microsoft makes OSs, not computers [15:36] <__T__> I'm on a mac [15:36] THEY MAKE SOFTWARE [15:36] Amen, GDwarf. [15:36] mac is a division of ms [15:36] <__T__> We don't even own a PC [15:36] Mac isn't a division of MS [15:36] ? [15:36] i second that amen [15:36] NOOOOOO ITS NOT [15:36] Zeldaforever: Not really, MS owns a bit of Apple [15:36] and how do you know I'm not using a Max that's running Debian Linux? [15:36] yeah it is [15:36] Mac isnt, Its an Apple, Dumbass [15:36] Apple owns Mac. MS owns Windows. [15:36] IT'S NOT A DIVISION, APPLE IS NOT A DIVISION!!!! [15:36] Whats a diarama? [15:36] lol jk [15:36] windows owns. period. [15:36] Apple owns Mac, MS owns WIndows. [15:36] Whee, and with, what, two ines Zeldaforever gets us all worked up [15:36] lol [15:36] <__T__> God, it's so hard to read all these comments [15:37] yep [15:37] Meh. Windows isn't stable enough. [15:37] windows sucks, mac os > windows [15:37] Windows blows monkeys, period [15:37] *lines [15:37] just like HA2 [15:37] :o [15:37] Windows is good [15:37] I'd use a mac, but I like Windows compatibility [15:37] so are doors [15:37] wait a sec! [15:37] without windows there is no mac [15:37] No. [15:37] it's just people install that has sloppy coding and people go OMG WINDOWS IS TEH BUGGY [15:37] do you get viruses? as we get tones on macs...... NOT [15:37] Correct [15:37] Whee, troll ahoy! [15:37] because windows was the guideline for mac [15:37] blah [15:37] MAC CAME BEFORE WINDOWS DUMBASS [15:37] bill gates didnt even make windows [15:37] is this zelda? No. [15:37] If Mac or Linux was compatible with as many things as Windows was, I'd get one of them. [15:37] what the [15:37] <__T__> I've never gotten a virus on my AMc [15:37] Yes he did [15:37] he bought it [15:37] <__T__> *Mac [15:37] <__T__> Never [15:37] pie [15:37] lol [15:38] Gates invented MS DOS, not Windows. [15:38] is this zelda? No. <- This is a Zelda chatroom [15:38] Bill gates invented windows, he bought out Dos [15:38] If Mac or Linux was compatible with as many things as Windows was, I'd get one of them. <-- you cant 'get' a linux fool [15:38] other way around Hiro [15:38] Anyways, wasn't the intermission supposed to be over by now [15:38] ok lets talk ZELDA now [15:38] * ZeldaFan27894 (PJIRC@init-C1D2596E.slkc.qwest.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:38] ? [15:38] ms dos sucks cant figger it out [15:38] Mac came before MS [15:38] Bill gates bought out Dos, which he then turned into MS DOS [15:38] Oh, and Hirohiigo, Gates didn't develop DOS, he bought it from someone else [15:38] * ZeldaFan27894 is now known as Dabombster [15:38] OKAY, FINE [15:38] gates then developed WIndows 1 [15:38] <__T__> The intermission was jsut a cover for the mods to get the heck outta here [15:38] ive been on a dos com its wierd [15:38] MS have Apple over a half of Apple's net value [15:38] all i know is that bill gates sucks [15:39] isnt bill nice? [15:39] and macs rule! :D [15:39] Uh [15:39] Gates is an awesome guy. [15:39] bill gates is rich i wonder if hell pay my rs membership [15:39] So, is PH OFFICIALLY TWW sequel? [15:39] i've never owned a PC in my life [15:39] always macs [15:39] Yes [15:39] lmao [15:39] adam8or, no [15:39] Yes? [15:39] it is a sequel [15:39] No. [15:39] Yes [15:39] YES [15:39] * ZeldaFan72963 (zuchat@init-B8C6ADA8.port.east.verizon.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:39] it was on IGN [15:39] volcanux:ur using one now [15:39] volcanux how come u didnt join the webby portal? [15:39] When was this? [15:39] [20:39] always macs <-- sucks to be you [15:39] oh ok [15:39] hahaha [15:39] Current word has it as a sequel to OoT, sort of, apparently it happens between OoT and tWW [15:39] bill gates isnt even giving his own children his money i doubt he will pay for your runescape membership :P [15:39] that makes no sense [15:39] * ZeldaFan78433 (PJIRC@init-CEA826F8.ek.shawcable.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:39] oot isnt first in the timeline [15:39] true [15:39] <__T__> So....what music does everyone like? (This is sure to cause a firestorm) [15:40] im on a mac right now, not a PC [15:40] Did someone say runescape! [15:40] He's giving them about 20 million [15:40] EACH [15:40] I REALLY HOPE that they show how he gets Navi (cuz i love NavI) and i wanna see how TWW link gets her [15:40] yep [15:40] he did [15:40] Can someone please get rid of the troll? [15:40] i said rs [15:40] If OoT isn't the first game in the timeline, what is? [15:40] i dunno [15:40] but it cant [15:40] YOU ARE ROLL UP AND DIE [15:40] *CAN [15:40] <__T__> Which troll? [15:40] <4Chat Moderator> 12And... we are back [15:40] adam8or, no navi in tWW [15:40] Why can't it be? [15:40] who's the troll? [15:40] he said he had to work for his money, and so shall they [15:40] WoW pwns runscape [15:40] ciz the master sword is... [15:40] in PH [15:40] __T__, all of 'em, preferably [15:40] the sword of evils bane [15:40] Currently it's the first game. [15:40] Your Mum pwns WoW [15:40] * James-ZU is now known as James-Horcruz [15:40] how would they know [15:40] poo [15:40] yup [15:40] * James-Horcruz is now known as James-Horcrux [15:40] <__T__> The intermission is over [15:40] if they never tested it [15:40] * ZeldaFan78433 is now known as Prophecy [15:40] GDwarf that is a likely story [15:40] Whether a prequel will be made or not we won't know yet, but for now it's the first. [15:40] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12Ladies and Gentlement, Boys and Girls, Children of all ages (and Lozzie)! It is time to resume. [15:40] bout time [15:40] on a real evil [15:40] GDdwarf... i said i wanna know how TWW link gets navi in PH [15:40] wow i'm good [15:41] o-O [15:41] hey [15:41] <4Chat Moderator> 12What are the benefits of moving Twilight Princess to the Revolution, keeping it on [15:41] <4Chat Moderator> 12GCN-only, or having it cross-system? [15:41] You are trying to cover the truth! [15:41] * Dom|pixelparadisecouk applauds [15:41] scott, that wasn't nice [15:41] woohoo! time to resume the roundtable [15:41] I know. [15:41] <4Chat Moderator> 12Question 7^ [15:41] adam8or, what makes you think they're the same link? [15:41] * Exadis-NU (exapix@init-2606F85A.ras05.ord01.dial.cogentco.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [15:41] o(0v0)o [15:41] who else can do that [15:41] what did i ever do to you [15:41] hey why does lozzie get mentioned this is an outrage! jk [15:41] no one! [15:41] um... because its the sequel [15:41] wise_link, because i'm cool [15:41] adam8or, says who? [15:41] but yeah it might be another link, [15:41] * TSA sets mode: +m [15:41] I usually mention Seary in those sorts of statements, but he's not here. [15:41] ahh [15:41] peace and quiet [15:41] jk [15:41] * Kokiri basks [15:41] * TSA sets mode: -m [15:41] O_O [15:41] <4Chat Moderator> 12TSA will go first, since i feel like being mean :) [15:41] welcome back [15:41] wow... [15:41] haha [15:41] ah [15:41] and people said that it is OFICIALLY the sequel [15:42] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Ack [15:42] Yeah, where peace and quiet is a synonym for chaos and anarchy. [15:42] has no one tried to put wand of gameleon, and all that in the timeline [15:42] any source for it being the sequel? [15:42] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Well [15:42] ABUSE [15:42] me neither [15:42] Because Nintendo has said nothing about it [15:42] i think ordering food sounds like a good idea [15:42] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Keeping it on GCN - pleasing a few core fans, but cutting off new customers. [15:42] * James-Horcrux is now known as James-ZU [15:42] because the cd-is are the game spawns of satan [15:42] lol [15:42] yeah [15:42] how? [15:42] hate em [15:42] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Putting it exclusively on Revolutions forces everyone to buy Rev for the game, which will convert a LOT of people to Revolution, many who just like Zelda. [15:42] So, while I was away for the last two hours any intelligent discussion go on? [15:42] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12So keeping it on GCN = please fans. [15:43] duh [15:43] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Keeping it on Rev = sales and pleasing Nintendo [15:43] i have no rev [15:43] not really [15:43] Or are we on question like 5? [15:43] <4Chat Moderator> 12so why not both? [15:43] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12The both system option is supposedly win/win, but it will come off as gimmicky. [15:43] Steve, question 7 [15:43] Yes, but historically, EVERY game that's been exclusively next gen ported after been announced on current gen FAILS [15:43] 20 to go :P [15:43] backward compatibility [15:43] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I am not a fan of that. [15:43] Point. [15:43] Heh [15:43] Zelda is no exception [15:43] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12XBOX360 did that with too many games at launch. [15:43] they went at first [15:43] Perfect Dark Zero [15:43] they were gonna say no [15:43] I Will TSA see something if I say it here? [15:43] XBOX 360 is a console [15:43] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Games that came out on XBOX360 as "suped up" versions [15:43] * ZeldaFan72963 (zuchat@init-B8C6ADA8.port.east.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: ZeldaFan72963) [15:43] Does he have highlights on [15:43] not a game port [15:43] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I want it either on GCN, or on Revolution. [15:44] plus nintendo has never done that with 1st party games [15:44] GCN. [15:44] 360 is xbox in different box [15:44] * ZeldaFan87654 (PJIRC@init-4EB864BE.neb.res.rr.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:44] no difference [15:44] lol [15:44] if you just hack the disk [15:44] you'll know [15:44] I want it either on GCN, or on Revolution. <- The only choices? [15:44] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12I'm really against the idea of Twilight Princess being on the Revolution, alone. Nintendo have promised too many times that it's going to be on the Gamecube. Otherwise, I feel that we'd be able to trust Nintendo even less than we can at the moment; which isn't much in my opinion! [15:44] slap it in an xbox and it plays [15:44] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12Twilight Princess staing on the Gamecube is a great idea. It's not pleasing core fans, it's pleasing everyone as the old Gamecube games can still be played on the Revolution. However, having extra features for the Revolution that aren't available on the Gamecube, like dungeons and Controller features, it'll make us people typing and reading here want a Rev twice a much, as we'll want to [15:44] Either only on one. [15:44] Not both. [15:45] gah, why does my sister like MCR [15:45] Archaic, what has Nintendo done to betray your trust? [15:45] What would be the benefits gameplay wise? [15:45] i like the little extras bit better then the only rev [15:45] * ZeldaFan76913 (zuchat@init-36590220.oc.oc.cox.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:45] and its been announced [15:46] It's 18 million installed user base Vs. NO install user base [15:46] It's $50 or $200 [15:46] Psst...BlackMage...change the topic. [15:46] * ZeldaFan87654 (PJIRC@init-4EB864BE.neb.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:46] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12play every feature. Thus forcing everyone to buy the Revolution. After all, we're all going to want to get the Rev at some point for some game or another, so over all, if they keep it on the GC, but have extra features, they're keeping their promises. [15:46] maybe $250 [15:46] yeah [15:46] yeah [15:46] yeah [15:46] thatll do [15:46] sage ur smart [15:47] everyone wins! [15:47] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Economically, it's a good decision to have it compatable on both. There's always going to be the fanboys who will suck up any new 'feature,' regardless of how gimmicky it turns out. [15:47] yay [15:47] * ZeldaFan63593 (PJIRC@init-A88D193C.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:47] like a certain pointlesss ring [15:47] * ZeldaFan36247 (PJIRC@init-4EB864BE.neb.res.rr.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:47] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12If TP and Rev don't debut around the holidays, then the game coming out only for Rev will hurt the former's sales. Not many will have the means just to buy a new system out of the blue for one game, unless they were already saving for it. [15:47] hi [15:47] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12There's a happy medium with a TP with "gimmicks" for Rev, because it can push sales for Rev without requiring the purchase of a new system. No one is turned off and it creates incentives for the new system. [15:47] * __T__ (PJIRC@init-E5AA177C.mpls.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:47] jack types fast [15:48] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12He is afk, i believe [15:48] not just fat, but no typos [15:48] i believe its lag [15:48] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12he said it was an emergency [15:48] what's afk? [15:48] * Yami (l33t.fr34k@init-9DF4625A.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) Quit (Quit: ) [15:48] * ZeldaFan36247 (PJIRC@init-4EB864BE.neb.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:48] Away from keyboard [15:48] Away from keyboard [15:48] oh [15:48] Away From Kentucky! [15:48] lol [15:48] ... [15:48] killing-the-barney-thing [15:48] It's backwards for Kentucky Fried Alligator. [15:48] well, then i'm always AFK [15:48] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12At this point in the game, unless Nintendo has secretly been preparing it for a long while and just never told anyone, it would probably not be the best course of action for them to put it on the Revolution. [15:48] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12Keeping it on Gamecube does, because of backward-compatability, essentially make it a Revolution title too, though. There will be, as has been said, "added features" for playing it on the Revolution, much like the Oracle games had for playing them on the GBA, so it wouldn't be blocking sales to Revolution owners. [15:49] Oooh, yeah, 2 seconds of lag [15:49] <4Scott - Zeldauniverse.net> 12Because of the backward compatability, it would be fairly pointless to release it separately for the Gamecube and the Revolution, as that'd be putting two of the same game on the Revolution, and that's bad business. [15:49] duh [15:49] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12This whole question of Gamecube vs rev is really to be quite honest getting on my nerves. I lost a lot of respect for Nintendo, their news system and above all Reggie over the rumours flying around the internet and radio to do with this issue. [15:49] * ZeldaFan63593 (PJIRC@init-A88D193C.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [15:50] likee me buying two spinning plates on rs thinking i could spin both at once.. :( [15:50] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12I personally think that TP should be released on the GameCube and that they should be working their socks off on a new Rev only Zelda game and utilise its features fully for the new game... Simple as that really [15:50] a type [15:50] yeah i agree [15:50] a typo [15:50] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12Moving TP to the Revolution will upset a lot of fans, especially after Nintendo has kept reassuring us that it will be on GC. Moving it to the Rev might boost console sales, but it might limit the number of game sales, as the fans [15:50] yeah that makes sense [15:50] I will admit the Rev's press has been pretty... Sporadic, but I, in part, blame media sources leaping to conclusions and publishing them as fact [15:50] utilise is spelled with a z [15:50] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12who have put money aside for the game now have to be able to afford a new console. Also, since it was designed for the GC, changing it over to Rev-only would mean that the game isn't using the full potential of the console. [15:50] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12Having the game playable on both consoles pleases everyone. A few little goodies in the Rev version might encourage fans to buy the Rev, but I think it should be entirely playable on GC. [15:50] * Psy is now known as Psy|brb [15:50] Everyone hates yet loves stupid controversies. [15:50] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Let's see... [15:51] yep. [15:51] so true [15:51] i guess [15:51] Good point, MN [15:51] I like how you think. XD [15:51] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Oops. ^_^' [15:51] lol [15:51] LOLOL [15:51] heh [15:51] he esceaped his answer by accident [15:51] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Let's see... [15:51] XD [15:51] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12REV- More possibilities for graphics and detail, and a unique controller format and online playability (possible). Downside is that people who had reserved it thinking it would be a GC title might be miffed that their reservation has an extra $150 price tag on it. [15:51] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12GCN- Follows through on their word, but will be automatically an outdated game that lacks the punch we're seeing in other systems. If we don't look at graphics, however, it'll still be an excellent game. Downside is less graphics, no chance for online connectivity (who uses the broadband adapter anyway?), and no innovative controller design, but overall still a great game. [15:51] xD [15:52] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12REV+GCN- A win/win in most cases, but this would mean that REV features would be limited and the game would still not have as great of graphics as it could. Plus if the REV uses larger discs for its own games, they might have to remove content to make it all fit. [15:52] in our chat, prefixing it with : escapes the script [15:52] what if they put a new texture pack in it for the rev? [15:52] like the OoT rom [15:52] guys let's not worry about the backwards compatibility it's too obvious of a topic [15:53] then they'd have to charge us extra [15:53] sounds just like ninty [15:53] it dont sound like much but... DANG! [15:53] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12It could always span multiple discs, MN ;) [15:53] it's a simple concept [15:53] no [15:53] no multi disc [15:53] ah right i see [15:53] not legend of Dragoon again [15:53] 2 hours of play-new disc [15:53] oooh, a multi-disk Zelda... How would that work, though? It's hard to explore everywhere if you have to keep chaning disks, unless you had a clear way of seperating the game... [15:54] it shud be backwards compatible because then it's avaiable to everyone. i think it shud have more features on the Rev though [15:54] yeah the whole map on every disc [15:54] maybe a couple extra minigames [15:54] Most RPGs don't ocupy the entire disk with the overworld, which is essentially what Zelda does [15:54] and the STORY spans every disc [15:54] <4The Real Link - Nintendo-Universe.com> 12Zelda sells and having it on the Revolution would help boost the sells at first. Having is on both systems allows it to still sell on the Revolution, but would also help the Nintendo fans without the money to go and buy the Revolution. It is just a matter of what they want to do. I am sure if it is on Revolution only the people that do not buy the Revolution right away will still [15:54] oooh, a multi-disk Zelda... How would that work, though? It's hard to explore everywhere if you have to keep chaning disks, unless you had a clear way of seperating the game... <- Like OoT Adult/Young lni [15:54] *link [15:54] Yeah, that could work, at the same time, it's not perfect for Zelda [15:54] The Lunar games (an RPG mind you) had the overworld on every disk, and you could even beat the game on the ending disk, but certain parts required the later disks. Perhaps Nintendo could do this for Zelda. [15:55] yeah [15:55] RPG's are the best for multiple discs [15:55] i hate multi disk bs [15:55] Exactly [15:55] wow conformitys got me O_o [15:55] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12I think it should stay GCN. They have advertised it for GCN for too long, and you know what, thats what it should be. It was not originaly designed for the revolution and I do not want it to be so. It's a GCN game, and i hope thats the way it stays. I'de love to swing a sword, but thats "next" generation, TP is still a "this" generation game. [15:55] maybe $250 [15:55] Res evil 4 had multi disks and it was amazing [15:55] they can work [15:55] yeah but having it on Revo ONLY would forse people who lik zelda, to buy a revolution, like my friends who loves Zelda but hates Revo. and he doesnt want to get one, so if he wants to play TP hell HAVE to get a Revo [15:55] PEOPLE [15:56] the solution is simple [15:56] I'm back [15:56] * DragonSlayer (DragonSlay@init-25B068C.megavision.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:56] have it be backwards compatible [15:56] <4Dabombster - ExplodingDekuNut.net> 12While having it on both systems will be cool in its own way, I do believe overall that it is a gimmick. The only special difference I can think of for having it on the Rev, will be the ability to use the controller as a sword. But that way, you may end up 201caccidentally201d whacking your siblings in the face ;) [15:56] duh that what they did and thats why [15:56] hey [15:56] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12Okay, well Having the TP game Cross system would be a great idea for a coupld of reasons. First tehre is the fact that is will sell the revolution not much more, but you have to admit, it should raise it a tad. second there is the fact that all of the LOZ games are great to play the first time, and ok the second but they dont have much of things you can do when you beat the game, with the cross [15:56] that way it's available for everyone [15:56] ZF, that's what everyon'es saying [15:56] yeah [15:56] *everyone's [15:56] so let's change the topic [15:56] what's the topic? [15:56] TP? [15:56] how about let's talk about enemy deisgn [15:56] or have we did that? [15:56] o [15:56] That was a good point. [15:56] thank you [15:56] Thats like saying for them to play it on the GC they need to buy a gamecube [15:57] Hey! [15:57] we are on should tp be rev or gamecube now [15:57] My name is gone =( [15:57] ZF, they have a list of questions that they have to go through [15:57] <4JC - psloz.com> 12I personally see no difference whether it's on the Revolution or GCN. I just want the game. If it's on Rev, you'll just get different controls. I'm not sure about it getting new features. [15:57] * ZeldaFan99681 is now known as Twilight-Prince [15:57] <4JC - psloz.com> 12Who cares what system it is on? Just take the game for what it is. It's still Zelda. [15:57] TP's delayed because they're adding backward compatibilities for the Revo! (my theory) [15:57] Okay. [15:57] Most Zelda fans are going to buy a Revolution anyway [15:57] the second disc for re had barely anything on it [15:57] JC is, apparently, made of money :P [15:57] LET'S TALK ABOUT ENEMY DESIGN [15:57] * James-ZU changes topic to 'Back to discussing the roundtable once again. Welcome back.' [15:57] LET'S TALK ABOUT ENEMY DESIGN [15:57] LET'S TALK ABOUT ENEMY DESIGN [15:57] LET'S TALK ABOUT ENEMY DESIGN [15:57] forget the backwards crap [15:57] * ZeldaFan76913 was kicked by James-ZU (You've been Insta-Kicked(tm) courtesy of Jimbo (Patent Pending).) [15:57] whee... flood prevention [15:57] no TPs delayed for the cameras angle during wolf raids [15:57] <4Chat Moderator> 12OKay [15:57] calm down [15:57] <4Chat Moderator> 12Question 8 [15:58] no one wants to look at a wolfs ass [15:58] <4Chat Moderator> 12What do you expect out of E3 in terms of Zelda? [15:58] Brb [15:58] listen we all want TP but still [15:58] A trailer [15:58] lol [15:58] game info :P [15:58] * ZeldaFan46349 (zuchat@init-36590220.oc.oc.cox.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:58] * Mess|AFK is now known as Mess [15:58] Heh, more movies, a solid release date, and being told what the pre-order bonus is [15:58] word on the plot [15:58] The actually game being given out for free! [15:58] <4Chat Moderator> 12me :P [15:58] i would really like it now but if it gets the game better fine with me [15:58] lol priceless \ [15:58] In its thousands [15:58] Although, did not Nintendo mention that a lot would be revealed at this E3? [15:58] I personally think that enemies need to be more creative this time around [15:58] *Millions [15:58] ya [15:59] NO ENEMY RECYCLING [15:59] From what I've seen in the trailers the enemies are very creative. [15:59] Trailer, screens, new demo, however, no need for any more info then what's shown in those. [15:59] i'm off now everyone, good speaking to you all. [15:59] bye [15:59] For example, in WW, there was an over emphasis on sword fighting [15:59] the enemies will be great [15:59] did u not see the boss fights [15:59] typing [15:59] * ZeldaFan40719 (PJIRC@init-77E9ACBF.nt.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [15:59] but put the octo in [15:59] I personally think that enemies need to be more creative this time around <- Then you will complain about the game being too different [15:59] hes cool [15:59] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12+ [15:59] new tp trailer and actual release date plus some ph stuff... and hopefully the cancelation of tingle rpg [15:59] and hes in every game [15:59] * ZeldaFan40719 is now known as Kilafer [15:59] I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IS WE USED VARIOUS ITEMS TO DESTROY ENEMIES INSTEAD [15:59] TP and PHANTOM HOURGLASS!!! [15:59] bye [15:59] BUT NOT SO MUCH TO THE POINT THAT IT BECOMES LIKE MAJORA [15:59] turn off the caps, please [15:59] I think using the sword to take out most enemies is just fine. [15:59] <4Chat Moderator> 12This will be the first e3 i'm gonna be attending. I am psyched. Its already been said that there will be 3 zelda games on the show floor of e3 this year. Obviously we have Twilight Princess and Phantom Hourglass... we can only speculate that Revolution is the third entity, but we don't know for sure [15:59] Hey how do u think P H will do? [15:59] CAPS FOR TEH WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [15:59] <4Chat Moderator> 12typing more. [15:59] Now, back to lower case, please [15:59] * Dabombster (PJIRC@init-C1D2596E.slkc.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [16:00] * Kilafer (PJIRC@init-77E9ACBF.nt.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [16:00] * ZeldaFan21060 (PJIRC@init-77E9ACBF.nt.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:00] Hey wat is phantom hourglass going to be? [16:00] * ZeldaFan21060 (PJIRC@init-77E9ACBF.nt.net) Quit (Quit: ZeldaFan21060) [16:00] Black Mage, it might be the Tingle RPG :P [16:00] no [16:00] i dont want it to [16:00] its gonna be enother wierd ass short-o game [16:00] * Volcanux (PJIRC@init-4279B6DB.bmly.cable.ntl.com) has left #zeldaroundtable [16:00] tingle is stupid [16:00] <4Chat Moderator> 12I fully expect at the minimum another trailer and demo of Twilight Princess, and at least a trailer each for Phantom Hourglass and whatever the third entity may be [16:00] ph for ds [16:00] the player shudn't have to constantly hit the start menu and change items, that beomces redundant and boring [16:00] 3 Zelda games? [16:00] DragonSlayer, Phantom Hourglass is a Zelda for the DS [16:00] i no [16:00] <4Chat Moderator> 12Lets hope they dont keep us in the dark [16:00] It's not the Tingle RPG [16:00] cya [16:00] When was this confirmed? [16:00] * ZeldaFan46349 (zuchat@init-36590220.oc.oc.cox.net) Quit (Quit: ZeldaFan46349) [16:00] i knew that but is it going to be good, would you buy it [16:00] * groupz (group-z@init-DDF25E23.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:00] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12I'd hope to see a release date for Twilight Princess, and a few more videos and pieces of official art. Nothing else from Twilight Princess though. [16:01] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12What I'd like to also see is stuff from Phantom Hourglass, some solid facts on a bit of storyline, and some official art. Maybe a demo of the game for the simple idea of playing Zelda with the stylus. [16:01] Or was this a secret confirmation? [16:01] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12I'd also like to see some information on Tingle RPG, and if it's actually going to be released, furthermore I'd also like to hear some more on Zelda Revolution. The idea of a free-hand stylus is a great idea, and Zelda could utilise it really well. However, not much else would really float my boat. I don't like to be told everything. I'd much rather some concerte storylines and characte [16:01] the player shudn't have to constantly hit the start menu and change items, that beomces redundant and boring <- Do you know what redundant means? [16:01] tingle rpg would be extremely stupid [16:01] yes [16:01] ...hazz, he's gone [16:01] i agree [16:01] Oh :( [16:01] I think ZF meant repetitive. [16:01] id buy tingle rpg just to burn it >:) [16:01] Who is all going to buy phantom H? [16:01] I'd still like to know what the preorder bonus is, E3 would be a great time to reveal it, no? [16:01] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12characters being told rather than another: "OMFG WOT A AWSUM TRAILOR". [16:01] lol [16:01] Archaic sage: We don't even know that much of the story for TP [16:01] zf said nothing [16:02] That's the trouble Hazz [16:02] It annoys me [16:02] true [16:02] Do you know what i think? Setting your own weapons to buttons is great. Honestly. But I need to stay out of this convo, i believe I am not suppose to be talking here. [16:02] one thing it will have, zelda [16:02] What if they told characters through another trailor? [16:02] But you expect PH infomation? [16:02] Yes, why not? [16:02] that would be awesome, mess [16:02] wait! MM never had zelda [16:02] I mean the actually story [16:02] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Phantom Hourglass is going to draw some attention, definitely. I'm sure a lot of people are interested in that. I'm just hoping that the extra "Touchscreen Features" that get unvieled aren't crap like "Sharpen Link's sword on the touchscreen!" [16:02] Zelda was in MM for a brief moment [16:02] HEY WAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THIS DELAY OF TP IS FOR VOICE ACTING? [16:03] I can't remember where, but it was stated that it would see a release this year. So I do expect to see some sort of information about PH [16:03] that would be cool [16:03] I honestly doubt Zelda will ever get voices. [16:03] wait! MM never had zelda <- Just a few years to late [16:03] i'd scream and murder miyamoto if lik sounds [16:03] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Of course, we're going to get standard fare, like new screenshots and trailers and the like. But I can't help but feel like there's another big thing that hasn't been announced yet. [16:03] lol not the good old voice debate! [16:03] then we would all go down to ninty hq with shootguns.. ZELDA SHOULD NEVER HAVE VOICE ACTORS EVER! [16:03] lol [16:03] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12(1) A release date for TP, and maybe PH, (2) Confirmation Tingle RPG was cancelled (because it better be!), (3) a new movie or four of TP/PH, (4) Inkling about Zelda Revolution, (5) and a few score screenshots of either. [16:03] k [16:03] i dont aunoma has already said he wants to add voice acting but miyamoto was against it for the time being [16:03] Cap'n, Nintendo has almost said as much [16:03] could they add guns to it? [16:04] I dunno, voice acting would be a nice feature if they did it right. And if they made sure Link still stayed silent. [16:04] lol no gins [16:04] Miyamoto is going to retire soon [16:04] lol [16:04] No, no guns. Hyrule must never have guns. >_> [16:04] <4JC - psloz.com> 12I can't tell what's going to go down at E3. I say whatever happens happens. I can only hope for so much. Any info on Zelda is good enough for me. [16:04] nooo i dont want him too [16:04] true [16:04] thankyou jack the best comment yet [16:04] its mideival-renaissance [16:04] wasnt it said that that TP will be realeased The same date as Revo? [16:04] no [16:04] NO [16:04] oh ok [16:04] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12Hmmmm, Zelda at E3, lets hope we get a official date of PH, that doesnt get pushed back, also i hope that there will be information regarding the capabilitys of a Zelda Rev. title. More information on their games and rev would be reall nice instead of last years 'its coming.... its coming.. its shiny... its badass... nope you cant see it' style. I cant really say much because of the fact, i can [16:04] It was never announced [16:04] ok [16:04] Pure rumor [16:04] The day Zelda goes modern is the day I hang myself from a tree. (please don't quote me on that) [16:04] OK! [16:04] hey when is rev going to be released? [16:04] unknown [16:04] really? [16:04] later this year [16:05] so we've been told [16:05] *quoted* [16:05] Revo is rumored to be out during the holiday season, but it's not confirmed. [16:05] i heard this spring but who knows [16:05] * ZeldaFan68735 (PJIRC@init-4279B6DB.bmly.cable.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:05] Mess, "In the fall" [16:05] lol [16:05] sometime between april 22, 2006-december 31, 9999999999 [16:05] <4Chat Moderator> 12", i cant go.. i might fake sick and make that" - Kifika [16:05] lol [16:05] it cut off [16:05] The day Zelda goes modern is the day I hang myself from a tree. [16:05] who is a staff for loz? [16:05] I'm going to go. [16:05] Nooooes, I said don't quote me. >_> [16:05] everything youve heard about anything nintendo being relesed laer thi year is just a rumor [16:05] GOOD BYE! [16:05] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12From E3 I would like to see a new trailer for both Twilight Princess and also for Phantom Hourglass and also if possible a detailed map of some kind of the Twilight Princess overworld and Twilight Realm. [16:05] lol [16:05] * Damian|away is now known as Damian [16:06] FAREWELL! SO LONG! [16:06] its a knockoff of my infamous # b/t 0-infinity math answer [16:06] * Twilight-Prince (PJIRC@init-CEDAAE4.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Quit: Goodbye.) [16:06] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12And above all I WANT A WORLDWIDE RELEASE DATE FOR TWILIGHT PRINCESS TO BE ANNOUNCED! Is that really asking too much Ninty!?! [16:06] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12I am expecting the TP release date! I'm sure there will be other TP info as well, including a demo, but it won't be the star it was last year. Instead, it will share the spotlight with Phantom Hourglass, which I'm definitely hoping for more information on. [16:06] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12And hopefully we'll hear something about Zelda Revolution too. [16:06] LoH, apparently :P [16:06] I hate you Link of Hyrule [16:06] where is E3 anyway [16:06] los angeles [16:06] likewise dragonslayer :P [16:06] lol [16:06] damn [16:06] it's to early to reveal Zelda Revolution if you ask me [16:06] lol [16:06] tn too far [16:06] lol [16:06] fu [16:06] rule 1 - dont bash the web masters] [16:07] SCOTT IS A MORON [16:07] check [16:07] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Hmm... lots of money spent on the display. Moreso than last time, for obvious reasons. It will probably feature Phantom Hourglass and possibly Tingle RPG (are they still making that?), as well as Twilight Princess. [16:07] meh i can take it [16:07] <3 [16:07] i dont have a home, no ones gonna drive me to la [16:07] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Being the last E3 before TP's release, they'll likely have a game demo and a lot more information, which should be exciting. Possibly their last trailer release as well. [16:07] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12I'm not too interested in the PH and TRPG games yet, as I still lack a DS, but I'm sure they'll want to focus on them quite a bit in the floor show. [16:07] * PhoenixFire (fawkeslame@init-9698DE6F.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:07] * ZeldaFan83892 (PJIRC@init-77E9ACBF.nt.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:07] hey link of hyrule did u like my comment? [16:07] * ZeldaFan86352 (PJIRC@3C469951.823AC4F6.6B14AA0D.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:07] where? on loz? [16:07] * ZeldaFan68735 (PJIRC@init-4279B6DB.bmly.cable.ntl.com) has left #zeldaroundtable [16:07] ya [16:07] Don't say " you" to people. [16:07] u blocked me [16:07] Loser. [16:07] Remember, Next Gen Zelda was shown the same year Majora's Mask was released [16:07] which update? [16:07] <4Chat Moderator> 12I have a DS-lite *w00t* [16:07] E3 will Hopefully/Probably announce Revo relase Date. TP release date and PH details, not sure about PH release date [16:07] I doubt they'd announce another main console Zelda title while one is in the works... it'd bring up too much question as to how legit it'd be, for the Main Zelda team is working on TP at the moment. [16:07] TINGLE RPG IS TEH STOOPID [16:07] * Windeh (Windeh@init-7D2100EF.l3.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:07] * ZeldaFan83892 (PJIRC@init-77E9ACBF.nt.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [16:07] Bah, I want a DS lite [16:08] * ZeldaFan86352 (PJIRC@3C469951.823AC4F6.6B14AA0D.IP) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [16:08] zomg hi. [16:08] dont remember but it had a lot of f words [16:08] I blocked u cos u were posting ads to ZU.. [16:08] and? [16:08] no [16:08] Aren't we a community? [16:08] i was fine then [16:08] Why does everyone hate Tingle? [16:08] scince when were things "better" when they're too small to bbe seen? [16:08] ya [16:08] >_> *I* liked him. [16:08] because hes a fairy [16:08] So is Navi. [16:08] except for japan [16:08] And Tatl. And Tael. [16:08] japan loved him [16:08] Case in point :P [16:08] This is totally insane. [16:08] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Most likely yet another TP trailer with some more demo's, as well as a influx of information on PH and potentionaly a brief mention of plans for Zelda on the revo. Also a confirmation of a TP release date and/or wether it is being held back for the revolution or not. [16:08] we hate tingle cos he is an adult fairy who looks like he has a drinking problem [16:08] Seriously, though, he's annoying, I couldn't say why though [16:08] I want to marry Tingle [16:08] fairy in tingles case=weird homosexual [16:08] he charged like 650 rupees for a single map in WW, he's a cheap son of a gun [16:09] And have his babies [16:09] * ZeldaFan49733 (PJIRC@init-C9BA7A1C.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:09] lol [16:09] ...tingle is wird, so his game will be weird, but that doesnt necessarily mean BAD [16:09] not only a drinking problem [16:09] lol [16:09] * PhoenixFire (fawkeslame@init-9698DE6F.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) Quit (Quit: Don't destroy the things you love, just what others love) [16:09] lol [16:09] no it will be BAD [16:09] The only thing I dislike about Tingle is in WW when he makes you pay 100+ rupees for a Triforce Chart. [16:09] he also looks like a kiddy fiddler [16:09] Other than that I like him. [16:09] u do to [16:09] Tingle is the word? :o [16:09] * ZeldaFan83281 (PJIRC@init-E5AA177C.mpls.qwest.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:09] <4The Real Link - Nintendo-Universe.com> 12We should see more of Twilight Princess and Phantom Hourglass. I also hope we get release dates on both of them. I doubt we will here much if anything of a Revolution Zelda, but then again who could have predicted what happened at E3 2004? [16:09] FISHER PRICE REPRESENTATIVE [16:09] so many zelda fans [16:09] tingle=crackhead weed smoker injector [16:09] * ZeldaFan83281 (PJIRC@init-E5AA177C.mpls.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [16:09] its almost as if nintendo wants us to hate tingle... [16:09] [21:06] Hazz I want to marry Tingle <-- this quote owns [16:09] * ZeldaFan54366 (PJIRC@init-67DAF79E.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:10] We had 80 earlier on Dragon [16:10] [21:06] Hazz I want to marry Tingle <-- this quote owns <- I try [16:10] lol [16:10] lol [16:10] * ZeldaFan49733 is now known as cyclone248i [16:10] . [16:10] im the only dragonslayer [16:10] good thing to [16:10] ._. [16:10] Holy crap, it's Cyclone. >_> [16:10] Man, this is so awesome [16:10] they would be takin my rep lol [16:10] jk [16:10] ey [16:10] ey [16:10] ey [16:10] ey [16:10] a good old internet chat at night [16:10] >_> One message is enough. [16:10] lol [16:10] reminds me when I was in high school [16:10] day for me [16:10] its not night you lie! [16:11] only 1pm 4 me [16:11] In some parts of the world it is. [16:11] Yes it's night ;-P [16:11] im in u.s [16:11] out of topic: anyone know where theres a free flash movie maker? [16:11] Is that all for the E3 question? [16:11] I got up at 3am for this! [16:11] it's 21:08 here. [16:11] its 3pm here [16:11] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12typing [16:11] lol [16:11] Now *that* is dedication [16:11] 3 oclock here [16:11] well its 4:11 pm here in the u s of a [16:11] It's 9pm [16:11] Macromedia Flash MX? [16:11] free? [16:11] lol [16:11] im goin to E3 im so excited ^_^ [16:11] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I expect at the press conference to see a new Twilight Princess Trailer and a new Phantom Hourglass trailer/footage. [16:11] this is funny [16:11] it's a trial version :P [16:11] eastern time that is [16:11] Flash MX can be free [16:11] ;) [16:11] (I apologize if my answers make no sense from lack of sleep!) [16:11] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I also expect see a glimpse of Zelda Revolution... [16:11] so many people so little time [16:11] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12even it is a teaser. [16:12] only 18 more days till E3 [16:12] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12At the show - TP/PH playable. [16:12] yes [16:12] i love e3 [16:12] second one i would see [16:12] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12At the roundtable - storyline details on TP/PH. [16:12] GOOD LUCK TSA [16:12] I can only dream of what Zelda Revolution will look like [16:12] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Oh yeah, and during some point - release dates. [16:12] u can? [16:12] if i went to e3, id be the one on the nintendo frontpage for "Destroying the Tingle RPG Exhibit" [16:12] ive seen it in images [16:12] I can only dream of what Zelda Revolution will look like <-- don't expect much more than Zelda TP [16:12] <4Chat Moderator> 12?nothing to add? [16:12] did u hear of the contest? [16:12] <4Chat Moderator> 12er [16:12] o-O [16:12] in the looks department [16:12] The image is only a rumour [16:12] Turned spanish with your grammar, have you? [16:12] dude its gonna be so emotional 1st from 2d to 3d then from 3d to rev. [16:12] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12That's the E3 Roundtable [16:12] Mess :O [16:12] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12not ours. [16:13] i want release dates above all else-exact rekease dates [16:13] someone in this e3 is going to be able to play rev for the first time [16:13] i wish it was me [16:13] but im not 18 [16:13] ive seen Zelda Revolutionj in a dream... you got to go IN the game... [16:13] its gonna be me [16:13] i wish it was me [16:13] * ZeldaFan54366 (PJIRC@init-67DAF79E.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [16:13] lol [16:13] Lol [16:13] i too have seen zelda rev in a dream [16:13] * ahull (ahull@D4CC0EEF.6EE6B134.134AC78C.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:13] is there an age limit to go to e3? [16:13] you're think of Zelda Uber Revolution [16:13] <4Chat Moderator> 12slight detour here while i dig up question 9 [16:13] lol [16:13] I just hope they anounce release dates [16:13] was it like mine? [16:13] no me gust la clase de espanol<- the only thing i learned in spanish class [16:13] Tsk Tsk, not prepaed? [16:13] *gusta [16:13] <4Chat Moderator> 12for the public: http://www.gamersadvanced.com/blackmage/dslite3.jpg [16:13] it sed come to me my child before my mom smacked me n woke me up [16:14] no comprende espanol [16:14] lol [16:14] si senor [16:14] wtf? [16:14] lol [16:14] is there an age limit to go to e3? [16:14] npo [16:14] 18 minimum [16:14] darn [16:14] je ne bavarde francais, pardon et moi :( [16:14] i would lie if yes? [16:14] what do i do in this thing [16:14] <4Chat Moderator> 12Question 9 [16:14] <4Chat Moderator> 12Do you think Zelda fans should be regarded with much importance when it comes to [16:14] <4Chat Moderator> 12influencing the making of the games? [16:14] The LED on my headset owns the DSlight's backlight [16:14] on this website [16:14] ME SIR JAJABINKS [16:14] yeas [16:15] slightly [16:15] Oooh, that question means even more, after Heros fans got Ubisoft to delay the game, and drop the Starforce copy protection [16:15] this year E3 is gonna be BIG with manny anouncemennts(hopefully) [16:15] ok more than that [16:15] my personal answer to that question is.... barely [16:15] http://www.uploadthis.co.uk/uploads/domanic/P1000213.jpg [16:15] theyre gonna say something big at E3 i just know it [16:15] i have a question, could you download classic games off the internet for free, when you have a rev? [16:15] games are there for the entertainment of their respective players \ [16:15] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Honestly, No. We don't know what we want till we get it. [16:15] i dont understand spanish [16:15] k [16:15] its seriously gonna be huge [16:15] no because we dont know what we want [16:15] in english please [16:15] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Look at Wind Waker for an example. [16:15] that what i said in spanish [16:15] that's just a reflection of the intense light on it [16:15] No, you'll have to pay for the game downloads. [16:15] nathan beat me to it... [16:16] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Everyone hated the Cel Shading, and now? Most people thought it fit very well with the game. [16:16] it'll probaly be a monthly fee per games downloading on Revo. [16:16] * Hazz (holyhazz@init-30986F95.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) Quit (Quit: Connection reset by peer) [16:16] its gonna chage our outlook on zelda forever [16:16] darn [16:16] adam8or, how would that work? [16:16] <4Chat Moderator> 12I digress. I loved the art style in WW [16:16] it will [16:16] but not free [16:16] just wait [16:16] easy [16:16] like ringtones on a cell phone [16:16] ok i have a question [16:16] o well by the time the rev. comes out we'll have a good GC emu running [16:16] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Nintendo is known for innovation, and I trust there ability to create a new and beautiful expirience over us influencing them to do so. [16:16] You can't charge a monthly fee for downloads [16:16] im going to love playing mario again [16:16] what do i do [16:16] miyamoto or whoevers gonna click a remote and were gonna see something amazing [16:16] At least, I don't see how that'd work well [16:16] YEs like ringtones pon a cell phone [16:16] lol [16:16] tww had a good art style but i think its becoming overused [16:16] im gonna watch E3 on G4 [16:17] Unless they released a new game every day or so [16:17] could you possibly download songs to the rev? [16:17] Well, not new, but new [16:17] the monthly fee pays for server costs. The profit made goes towards developing extra content for old games [16:17] <4The Real Link - Nintendo-Universe.com> 12Yes and no, as gamers we know what we like, but we really have no clue what all goes into it. The Game Developers know what they are doing. Our job is to enjoy the games. [16:17] * Art1st4786 (Art1st4786@init-5C11597C.hr.hr.cox.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:17] * Hirohiigo (PJIRC@init-1D418BD2.lft.bellsouth.net) has left #zeldaroundtable [16:17] I wouldn't want extra content in old games [16:17] my job is to hack them [16:17] exactly [16:17] lol [16:17] * ZeldaFan89739 (PJIRC@init-1D418BD2.lft.bellsouth.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:17] mine too ^_^ [16:17] * ZeldaFan89739 (PJIRC@init-1D418BD2.lft.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: ZeldaFan89739) [16:17] rofl [16:17] could you possibly download songs to the rev? [16:17] no mine! [16:17] yeah duh [16:17] Emulation costs shouldn't go into it, anybody can with programming skills could create an emulator if you made the machine and had the uncrypted BIOS [16:17] k calm down [16:17] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12typing [16:17] you just gotta rerout the server pass... [16:17] Possibly Game Songs [16:18] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I think Nintendo should pay attention to fans post-release of products, not beforehand. [16:18] im hoping even more [16:18] i wonder if the ps3 is going to be affordable? [16:18] me2 [16:18] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Agreed [16:18] true dat tsa true dat [16:18] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I do think, however, they need to pay attention to what we ask for sometimes. For example...manga. We want it translated into English for us to buy. We want soundtracks in the US. Why don't they listen to that? [16:18] LOL [16:18] dragon you're funny [16:18] lol [16:18] i was looking at a BS Zelda rom and they said something about a broadcast? [16:18] Soundtracks would be cery nice [16:18] <4Chat Moderator> 12Tsa pretty much just nullified a question XD [16:19] The BS Zelda used a broadcast system [16:19] Heh [16:19] what was it [16:19] i pass the w8 time w/ zelda fanfics , football conditioning, and pickin up on games ive always wanted to [16:19] *very [16:19] good job tsa [16:19] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Because the games are the big sellars. That is most likely why they don't head word about the manga and such. [16:19] 4 hours only it said [16:19] possibly new mario games, wat would they be like? [16:19] you just gotta translate the mange urself i guess [16:19] kind ahard [16:19] asggy='] [16:19] a [16:19] ss [16:19] h [16:19] ad [16:19] gs [16:19] gsg [16:19] sfg [16:19] agsdf [16:19] i can draw anime/manga [16:19] * Toad064 (Toad064@init-FAD48B2A.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) Quit (Quit: Toad064) [16:19] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12Yes. Simply because we are the ones who are purchasing the games, we are the ones who spend hours creating and reading the sites and pointing out Nintendo's inconsitancies. So they should definately consult us, on the whole, before allowing things to go ahead. I don't think people would've hated The Wind Waker half as much if there was no Spaceworld 2000 demo of Link. Further, a decent [16:19] they have covered bout all they could for mario [16:20] * ahull (ahull@D4CC0EEF.6EE6B134.134AC78C.IP) Quit (Quit: Come back soon!) [16:20] hint-dont translate games with babelfish [16:20] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12In essense, to survive, they need to talk to us. As we're the ones keeping them either alive, or dead. [16:20] It was basically a system where you could play these games online and compete against people by trying to complete that chapter the fastest [16:20] it was essentially an LTTP mod, and you could only play it online AFAIK. [16:20] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12After all, we're translating manga and downloading soundtracks ourselves, why not let us buy them and earn a profit off of us. [16:20] new mariokart perhaps? [16:20] or a new super mario? [16:20] oh [16:20] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12The avarage consumer is retarded. If the avarage consumer decided what the next Zelda game should be, it would be a mash-up of every sub-par adventure game in existance, with music provided by Green Day. [16:20] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Some voice is good. I'm positive that developers linger around fansites, just to gather ideas. [16:20] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12The gamer has final say, however, by choosing whether or not to spend their hard earned money on a game. But leave the development process up to the professionals. [16:20] Or Mario Party 8 for Revolution! thats gonna be cool [16:21] no [16:21] not cool [16:21] yes [16:21] lmao [16:21] i hope that was sarcasm [16:21] go to the corner [16:21] yes cool [16:21] haha [16:21] go [16:21] shoo [16:21] ok... [16:21] sit and cry for awhile [16:21] bye adam8or!!!1 [16:21] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12I think they need to listen to our comments after the game is released. They seem to ignore them and make the same mistakes. I just don't think we should be adversly effecting the way the games are made, just pointing out reminders on past mistakes. [16:21] mario party is a dead horse franchise [16:21] lol [16:21] green day .... lol [16:21] ok *cries* [16:21] then catch hold of wat u said [16:21] no but 4real [16:21] No, I say the developer has the final say, but the gamer is allowed some input. [16:21] mario party 8...cool [16:21] no but 4real ya its stupid [16:21] never green day! [16:21] you know what's great about nintendo they leave things like the DS and twilight princess to cover up their projects such as the new gameboy because the DS is not the new gameboy its been stated i just cant find where and zelda rev [16:21] slipknot much better! [16:21] lol [16:21] why do u think its stupid? [16:22] u like it [16:22] lol [16:22] because mario party is a dead horse [16:22] lol [16:22] * Psy|brb is now known as Psy [16:22] * lord_zim (I@init-9B1107DE.no-dns-yet.enta.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:22] Dragon, simmer down [16:22] green day=emo [16:22] k [16:22] However, a system like this would be disappointing, because the gamer gets access to what's being done. Why would you pay for a ga,e when you know what happens? [16:22] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12ack [16:22] yeah u guess urrigt on that [16:22] how could they possibly make mario party worse? [16:22] * ZeldaFan20709 (PJIRC@init-77E9ACBF.nt.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:22] adding more useless crap to it [16:22] add other nintendo characters [16:22] i hated mario party. it cheated [16:22] <4Chat Moderator> 12push the up arrow and remove the colon [16:22] lol [16:22] and call it Nintendo party [16:22] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12I think it's a good idea for them to listen to their fans. It lets them know how well they're doing and also where they're struggling. [16:23] try and put lik in it [16:23] they killed it after 3 and made it worse by using the yoshi's story yoshi [16:23] ya [16:23] * ZeldaFan20709 (PJIRC@init-77E9ACBF.nt.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [16:23] never put link in mario party [16:23] i tryed 3 and it was aigt then it bit the dust [16:23] ya lol [16:23] hey yoshis story yoshi pwns [16:23] Super Party Brothers [16:23] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12However, all of Nintendos ideas should be their own and not that of the fans. [16:23] no he doesnt [16:23] yea 3&2 were the height [16:23] Mario Party 2 was cool back in the day :P [16:23] i remember yoshi story when i was young [16:23] psst! whats joshis story??? [16:23] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12No, because everyone wants different things to be in the game. Too chaotic if you're going to try to please everyone. It'd be less sloppy in the end if they left the game details to the production team and let only certain issues like game mechanics be the province of gamer complaints. [16:23] old [16:23] Well im hoping Super Smash Bros. 3 uses the "shell" and not the regular controller [16:23] but fun when u was little [16:24] ya [16:24] they never should have kept the yoshi story's voice for yoshi though [16:24] lol [16:24] <4JC - psloz.com> 12Zelda stimulates the imagination. People could get inspirtations from Zelda games, sure. [16:24] <4JC - psloz.com> 12As you've noticed, theres alot of Zelda fan games (Including mine) around the Community. You can either take Zelda as an influential source, or a source of enjoyment, or both. [16:24] <4JC - psloz.com> 12The Legend of Zelda holds a very special place in the Market, and in every fan's heart. Look at the PS2 game "Shadow of Colossus". All the huge, gigantic monsters in that game are inverted Zelda Ocarina of Time dungeons. [16:24] <4JC - psloz.com> 12Remember in the original Final Fantasy where it said "Here likes Link"? [16:24] u have a zelda game? [16:24] yoshi shouldnt TALK [16:24] y should he anyway [16:24] wat would he say [16:24] "i like bunnies" [16:24] JC makes a very good point [16:24] sometin stupid [16:24] wahoo! [16:25] rofl [16:25] lmao [16:25] quote from mariokart [16:25] wtf inverted oot dungeons? [16:25] Zelda: Ocarina of Time inspired me to become a games designer. [16:25] <4JC - psloz.com> 12Zelda influences alot of things for people. It just depends on how you interact with the series you claim you are so dedicated to. [16:25] * Dulcie (Miss_Dulci@init-76E9DCBA.an3.atl16.da.uu.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [16:25] i want to make games too [16:25] and the air force [16:25] Too bad you probably never will. [16:25] im making a zelda game in gamemaker [16:25] but thats for college money for it [16:25] Life sucks, eh? [16:25] Cheers STQ [16:25] no [16:25] Yes. [16:25] darkbasic sucks [16:25] no [16:25] YEZ [16:25] no [16:25] heres a glass of stfu and another glass of gtfo [16:25] Yoshi, Mario, Link should only moan and yell etc. not talk that would just ruin the game [16:25] jc isnt trying to secretly promote his game at all...really... [16:25] lol [16:25] j/k [16:25] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12Hmm, i dont think we should simply because, would the zelda game be what it is today if [16:25] ive bein recruited so and im fillin out these forms and takin preparation courses for west poiint academy [16:26] for the air force [16:26] * ZeldaFan92928 (PJIRC@init-6660F78D.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:26] * Prophecy (PJIRC@init-CEA826F8.ek.shawcable.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [16:26] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12we put our say in it today ? I mean there are alot of fan games going around, and they [16:26] mor zelda fan [16:26] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12stray away from the zelda game its self, i mean tehre are like 200 mmorpg zelda fan games [16:26] after that i wanna be a game reviewer [16:26] yeah u ever watched the newgrounds movies? every time llink talks its corny [16:26] lol [16:26] lol [16:26] i like 4 swords misadventures [16:26] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12Hmm, i dont think we should simply because, would the zelda game be what it is today if [16:26] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12WTF [16:26] the real legend is he best [16:26] lol [16:26] yea that too [16:26] the real legend is teh pwn0rz [16:27] rly [16:27] the best zelda is going to come out this year [16:27] its awesome [16:27] o rly? [16:27] ya rly [16:27] the best link voice I've heard is the return of ganondorf one [16:27] yessm [16:27] he dropped the emerald [16:27] i enjoyed the real legend [16:27] * Bwa_Kell (Bwa_Kell@init-DB2B8919.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) Quit (Quit: initialized ) [16:27] * lord_zim (I@init-9B1107DE.no-dns-yet.enta.net) Quit (Quit: Come back soon!) [16:27] where he says Oh, AND HELP YOURSELF TO ANYTHING IN THE FRIDGE! [16:27] have a question though [16:27] ??? [16:27] ? [16:27] haha [16:27] All zelda fans are cunts. [16:27] * SteveTheQueen (Mirror@init-F964AE1.bflony.adelphia.net) has left #zeldaroundtable (Leaving) [16:27] no [16:27] OMG [16:27] wtf???? [16:27] OMG [16:27] OMG [16:27] WTF [16:27] omg [16:27] o-o [16:27] wtff [16:27] <4Chat Moderator> 12k [16:27] loser [16:27] * TheTeej-ZSO-ZP was kicked by Mess (Mess) [16:27] sweet, sweeping generalizations are AWESOME [16:27] * TheTeej-ZSO-ZP (tjalian@init-F9273AE3.lutn.cable.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:28] <4Chat Moderator> 12KIFIKA passes due to technical difficulties [16:28] VIVA LA REVOLUTION [16:28] spam-spam-a-no-no [16:28] lol [16:28] lol [16:28] stevethequeen your you friggin no that??? [16:28] sorry [16:28] but that was classic [16:28] * ZeldaFan92928 (PJIRC@init-6660F78D.mia.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [16:28] y do they always take forever w/ the flashes and then they release on like the same day [16:28] haha [16:28] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12I don't believe that the fans should have a say in the making of the Zelda games because as ArchaicSage said we just have too many opinions and preferences. Leave it to the proffesionals at Ninty and they will hopefully find a middle ground and create the games we all know and love. It hasn't gone wrong yet (as long as Tingle doesn't get his own game!) [16:28] * Shadow_Lugia (Rez@init-A20A36DD.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:28] he said he would in #zelda over on our server [16:28] well link of hyrule i do [16:28] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12That's a tough question. Each fan has their own view of the Zelda series, and they don't all agree. Nintendo are the ones who know what they're doing, and I think we should trust them. [16:28] well thats ur opinion :P [16:28] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12If one or two fans were allowed to give input, other fans may hate what they come up with. But if you gathered a group of fans together - say even those of us doing this chat right now - there would be a *lot* of arguing and debating. [16:28] no mam its my fact [16:28] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12Like TSA said, Nintendo should watch for how the fans react to each game instead of just taking Zelda off into their own little world. [16:29] [21:25] Zeldaforever stevethequeen your you friggin no that??? <-- People who can't spell correctly are, well, as you described stebe the queen o-o [16:29] lol [16:29] thats right i said it, "marm" [16:29] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12The making? Not very, no. No group can decide on a single storyline, for one... if fans are given any precedence, it should be contests for fan-made materials, like characters or music. [16:29] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12If any of it fits, they can add it and give out bonuses. It's a small part, but it would give us something to look forward to. [16:29] wtf [16:29] link of hyrule is a girly [16:29] steve* [16:29] * Shadow_Lugia eats The_Real_Link [16:29] ha! dont say i cant spell! [16:29] <4Kifika - zeldaotaku.com> 12Hmm, i dont think we should simply because, would the zelda game be what it is today if we put our say in it today ? I mean there are alot of fan games going around, and they stray away from the zelda game its self, i mean tehre are like 200 mmorpg zelda fan games out tehre... i dont think zelda was made to be a mmorpg, also in my opinion zelda has got this far by its self, and i couldnt really [16:30] * ZeldaFan55942 (zuchat@init-95F1D42.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:31] why cant it be the sqare table [16:31] i say that we should have something to help out zelda games, look at the artwork some people have done, we could help in the making of new characters, bosses, side bosses, enimies, and even new and cool allies, that is why it think that the zelda fan can and will help with the makings of new zelda games [16:31] allies! [16:31] something on my mind [16:31] yesser [16:31] in MM when you get to play as kafei he can atack. why?? [16:32] used the engine for links movements on him? [16:32] that is the reason why link of hyrule is wrong [16:32] and placed a skin there [16:32] that woulda been cool to have him with you as an ai or second controller based char [16:32] * Shadow_Lugia is now known as ZeldaSlayer [16:32] <4Chat Moderator> 12Question 10 [16:32] <4Chat Moderator> 12Should fans really care so much abou the overall timeline of the zelda series? Do you [16:32] <4Chat Moderator> 12really think the creators mean for fans to be so worked up about it? [16:32] nope [16:32] <4JC - psloz.com> 12heh, my type of question [16:32] * ZeldaSlayer slays Zelda [16:32] people wont go and say that greenday music should be in it, a good zelda fan should say that it should have cool and new classical midevil time music [16:32] its all just stickitsomewhere [16:32] absolutely not [16:32] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12wonderful. a timeline question. [16:32] no but they should reveal it anyway... [16:33] uh oh [16:33] timeline question [16:33] noooooo [16:33] you act like you didn't expect one <_< [16:33] it's too confusing, no timelines XP [16:33] <4JC - psloz.com> 12Fans can care about the timeline, or not. It's up to them really. It's hard to say if the creators got us worked up about it. I'm not sure they'd know they'd make games contradicting existing game info. [16:33] no why would we need to know that [16:33] lol [16:33] lol [16:33] damn means I actually have to write something for this one lol [16:33] exactly [16:33] Timeline question YES!s [16:33] Eh, I made sure there was one in there ;) [16:33] <4JC - psloz.com> 12I, for one, care very much for the timeline. [16:33] oot aint first [16:33] because! [16:33] <4JC - psloz.com> 12And to hear Aonuma say they are working on it is sort of a comfort and a distress. [16:34] Zeldaforever: because you're gannon-banned? [16:34] the master sword is referred to as "the sword of evils bane" [16:34] * Windeh (Windeh@init-7D2100EF.l3.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Ting Pimeout) [16:34] Question #10 -- No, I don't think Zelda needed a timeline, just like FF. [16:34] by [16:34] <4JC - psloz.com> 12I guess we'll just need to wait it out. I for one am ready to tackle every theory I find until we have a full, complete timeline. [16:34] if they creators really cared about the timeline they would stop letting capcom f it up [16:34] Well, I'm off [16:34] Farewell all [16:34] k [16:34] FF is easy, they're all numbered XD [16:34] how wil they tell if they never tried it on a TRUE evil [16:34] bye [16:34] I think that they dont say the timeline because if they do, they wouldnt be able to add games in betwwen games [16:34] * GDwarf (chatzilla@init-650EADB3.tor.uniserve.ca) Quit (Quit: Farewell) [16:34] * ZeldaFan87854 (PJIRC@init-BF42D0CA.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:34] * ZeldaSlayer (Rez@init-A20A36DD.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: I HATE vip!!!) [16:34] they would still have enough capability to make new games [16:35] yeah they could [16:35] * ZeldaFan87854 (PJIRC@init-BF42D0CA.hsd1.il.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [16:35] they have a timeline for metroid and castlevania and those series still get new orginial additions so why not zelda? [16:35] they just say this goes in the spot between say oot and mm [16:35] y dont you think that fans shouldnt have a comment or help make zelda games link of hyrule? [16:35] hes said it you know [16:35] wise link has a bias against capcom zeldas [16:35] * ZeldaSlayer (Rez@init-A20A36DD.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:35] ? [16:36] no i dont like him [16:36] cuz not all zeldafans think alike [16:36] <4Chat Moderator> 12We're going to make this question an open forum for any webmaster who wants to comment on this one... so it can be more of a discussion... this discussion will end at 4:45pm (approx 10 minutes) [16:36] <4Chat Moderator> 12Go [16:36] yes i do [16:36] darn [16:36] [16:36] [16:36] [16:36] [16:36] [16:36] [16:36] [16:36] [16:36] [16:36] [16:36] [16:36] [16:36] [16:36] but only cause they f up the timeline and most of them blow [16:36] [16:36] wtf [16:36] [16:36] [16:36] [16:36] stop [16:36] wtf [16:36] Are you done? [16:36] wtf [16:36] * ZeldaSlayer was kicked by Mess (Mess) [16:36] lol [16:36] kicked [16:36] * TheTeej-ZSO-ZP hits ZS with an steel chair [16:36] Good. I see you are. [16:36] does it say that this discution will end in 10 minutes for everyone else too? [16:36] I look away for a moment [16:36] and I get that -_- [16:36] yes [16:36] awww but i wanna kick him too [16:37] DragonSlayer: no [16:37] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Here's the timeline. Zelda's Adventure. Final Fantasy VII. Mega Man X. Super Mario Kart. A Link to the Past -> Split timeline -> Chrono Trigger -> Ocarina of Time -> Final Fantasy X -> Bomberman -> Metroid II: The Return of Samus. [16:37] uh-oh [16:37] * ZeldaFan47194 (PJIRC@init-CFE7D229.wfd75b.dsl.pol.co.uk) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:37] Hahahah. Thats what happens when you are babysitting some 40 or so people... [16:37] <4JC - psloz.com> 12God knows he's right too, folks! [16:37] haha [16:37] * ZeldaFan47194 is now known as turismo [16:37] <4Chat Moderator> 12Oh god [16:37] <4Chat Moderator> 12XD [16:37] lol the timeline folder was dropped [16:37] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Nah [16:37] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12Indeed that is the timeline TSA! [16:37] lofl [16:37] god damn it tsa...<_< [16:37] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12It's fine if people debate it. [16:37] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12I sincerely doubt that the creators wanted there to be this much controversy about the timeline. On the other hand, it's a lot of fun. :P I won't digress into my own thoughts of what the timeline is, but I sincerely doubt Nintendo is going to define it further. [16:37] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12To them, it's not a major issue, and to us, it only really became an issue when OOT was released and some sense of continuity became apparent. I think it's fascinating, and I love contemplating various theories, but I think it's also important not to make too much of a big deal out of it. [16:37] trueness [16:37] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12No matter what theory you come up with, Nintendo will break your canon sooner or later. Unless you convince Nintendo to follow your timeline, which is quite a feat. [16:37] <4Chat Moderator> 12You forgot Mario party 88,234 [16:37] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12Everyone has their own views on what the timeline should be. Discussions and debates have been brought up about each person's views, including whether there's a single or multiple timelines. [16:37] Not true, Zelda's Adventure is the last game, chronologically! Didn't you see the ending? [16:38] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Just so long as people know two things: 1) There is a timeline. 2) You don't know it. [16:38] no [16:38] lol [16:38] no, don't ruin it for me XP [16:38] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I don't think the timeline should ever be revealed. [16:38] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12I personally think that the creators of Zelda never intended for there to be a timeline, they just got caught up in making some games link slightly [16:38] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12When Nintendo first made LoZ, back in 1986, I doubt that they knew it would still be going so strong 20 years after that. [16:38] <4JC - psloz.com> 12For one: theories are useless. If you want a complete CANON timeline, using only game info, you wouldn't need any theory really. You'd just need to piece each game together. [16:38] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12It would destroy some of the mystique behind the series. [16:38] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12Yes, I have a copy of that timeline. [16:38] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I agree Lysia. [16:38] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12It only goes up to MM. [16:38] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12Just like with how some fans will be angry with giving Link a voice, it goes the same for giving a specific timeline. It'll anger a lot of fans who believe their timeline is right. [16:38] baaaaaaaaaak [16:38] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Why'd they call it Final Fantasy? It was supposed to be the last game they made... [16:38] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12Then fans made their own assumptions. Miyamoto said some rubbish about there being a true timeline that was taken in the wrong way and now we are where we are [16:39] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Not they are stuck with the title...which doesn't even make any sense anymore. [16:39] What's Zelda's adventure's ending? [16:39] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12*Now [16:39] ur stupid link of hyrule [16:39] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12Overall, I think the timeline is indeed important because if the Zelda series is anything, it's one expansive story. And, what good is a story if you don't what order it takes place in? Having a timeline adds a much needed dimension to the Zelda experience. [16:39] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Not to mention that Nintendo has often changed the timeline, so nothing is set in stone. [16:39] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12I highly doubt they will ever release a true timeline.. there is just too many games now to make it seem real [16:39] topic? [16:39] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12I think some light sarcasm is needed in the timeline debate. [16:39] timeline [16:39] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Frankly, I don't think there is much of a timeline at all anymore. It's obvious after all the localizations and releases that Nintendo quit caring about the timeline long ago. And now that the fans are attempting to piece things together themselves, the inevitable chaos is here, and Nintendo is totally screwed on what to do, other than say "we'll work it out eventually." [16:39] who needs a timeline [16:39] What Happens in zelda's adventure's ending?! [16:39] nothing [16:39] oh boy... [16:39] just shussh [16:39] i am here [16:39] no ur there [16:39] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Fans should focus on the in-game stories. [16:39] i am here too [16:39] <4JC - psloz.com> 12The timeline is definately something great. It gives the Zelda series an extra shine. [16:39] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12So what do we have now? Multiple timelines? Multiple dimensions? I'm suprised that black holes havn't come into play at this point. [16:39] no ur there [16:40] yes we should [16:40] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12There is a timeline, and Nintendo is working on it, but nobody else knows what it is yet. I, personally, would like to see what it is. [16:40] but we want a connection deeper that makes it all seem possible [16:40] i really dont see why they just dont reveal it already [16:40] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12It'll make a lot of sense with the games and possibly explain some things, like what happened after Wind Waker. [16:40] hey will there be an intermission at the end of this 10 minutes, or is that it for tonight? [16:40] * ZeldaFan55942 is now known as zelda_may_cry [16:40] cuz it would ruin the fun [16:40] <4The Real Link - Nintendo-Universe.com> 12I have no need for a timeline. I just take each game as they are. [16:40] IM OUT AND LINK OF HYRULE CAN HIS MOMMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [16:40] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12Or if Ganon ever came back after Adventure of Link [16:40] who here comes from the gamespot/gamefaqs forums? [16:40] ? [16:41] * DragonSlayer (DragonSlay@init-25B068C.megavision.com) Quit (Quit: initialized ) [16:41] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12I can play each Zelda game as a separate game, and enjoy its own world, and as long as there are no obvious links to other games then I don't usually play through thinking about the overall timeline, but rather just the story of that game. [16:41] Fortunately, i dont think most of them knew about this roundtable [16:41] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12I think Wind Waker should be non-canon... there are just so many concepts that don't make sense in that game. For one, how come they have so many mountains close together, and nearly all of them lush and flat? [16:41] lol [16:41] rly [16:41] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12You see, Sephiroth killed Zelda when Link was going for the Holy Triforcia...then like...The Minish used their life force to summon the four giants to stop the Moon in Majora's Mask.... [16:41] ok then what about ZI [16:41] i'd cry if they all did [16:41] <4JC - psloz.com> 12Nothing changes the fact that it is definately one of the most aggrevating portions of Zelda. [16:42] Darth vader is Lukes father [16:42] thats saying u cant go too feet without bumbuin into a mt in hyru;le] [16:42] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Frankly, all we need is a futuristic Zelda game. That way Nintendo can appease all the people who would like to see a somewhat-solid timeline theory, by knowing which game is last in the series. [16:42] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12At least all the folks in the single-timeline camp. [16:42] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Heh, Link looks like Fayt from SO3. [16:42] seriously that tsa... [16:42] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Capcom should handle that one. [16:42] hey adam: anakin skywalker is Darth vader [16:42] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Doesn't matter if it sucks, but at least part of the crowd is calmed. [16:42] NUH UH [16:42] get out [16:42] no way [16:42] i will not [16:42] *thats [16:42] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12We can name it "Return of Four Swords" because nobody liked the FS subseries anyways. [16:43] * Last (chance@init-C8F38EF2.lu.dl.cox.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:43] <4Chat Moderator> 12I'd like to see the game where the triforce is destroyed [16:43] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Whoa... Link does look like Fayt... [16:43] <4Chat Moderator> 12ie, the last one [16:43] and severus snape is the Half-Blood Prince [16:43] * Last is now known as Last_Chance [16:43] James- OMG i never new that!!! lol (just kidding) [16:43] I think Wind Waker should be non-canon... there are just so many concepts that don't make sense in that game. For one, how come they have so many mountains close together, and nearly all of them lush and flat? <-- Magic. If the goddesses can flood Hyrule, I don't see why they'd have any problem creating mountains. [16:43] Halo is the futuristic Zelda silly [16:43] I'd like to see the LoZ come to a conclusion ;_; [16:43] capn cornflake r u kidding me? four swords did great [16:43] end... done and overwith :( [16:43] No. I'm not kidding. [16:43] the big N was jus testin it on the gameboy [16:43] and worked w/ it on a console [16:44] why did they have problems killing ganon [16:44] cuz hes the king of evil [16:44] dunno [16:44] zelda is the only series i can think of without an explanation of how its games go together [16:44] AKA Hyrule's Satan [16:44] * ZeldaFan60429 (PJIRC@init-DA2E584A.mad.east.verizon.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:44] * ZeldaFan60429 is now known as IceMan [16:44] Hey chance ;) [16:44] kill ganon? no thats interfering. DROWN THEM! THEY NEVER NOTICE!!!! [16:44] Turi [16:44] because he has ginger hair, and as we know, anyone wither ginger hair is hard to kill [16:44] What about the Devil May Cry series? [16:45] im out foolios [16:45] lol [16:45] * zelda_may_cry (zuchat@init-95F1D42.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: zelda_may_cry) [16:45] no i think they have one [16:45] that has no proper explanation [16:45] Hey [16:45] whats up? [16:45] Well, DMC2 is non canon to me [16:45] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Okay, last question [16:45] it goes dmc3>dmc>dmc2 [16:45] .. [16:45] that makes no sense [16:45] Finally. [16:45] what happens to all the characters in DMC [16:45] no it does [16:45] the third one is a prequel to the first one [16:46] deciding on the last question, gimme a few [16:46] yeah, I know that much [16:46] it says it right on the game box [16:46] that's understandable [16:46] and im assuming the second is a sequel [16:46] why couldnt they just make the zelda series in the order of their jacked up timeline?? [16:46] because [16:46] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12This one is for the public room - should GameFAQs boards be destroyed? [16:46] i wouldnt really know i dont know that much about dmc [16:46] * Rawr (Art1st4786@init-BF7D8BEB.hr.hr.cox.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:46] because they didnt feel like it [16:46] YES! [16:47] they didnt know if it would go good, and they didnt know that it would be such a big hit [16:47] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Honestly, the timeline stuff is very interesting, but not exactly of nintendo's concern. They pay no never mind to it when they make the games, and afterwords give hints as to how it fits in, but they never explain exactly how it fits in. They like the fans to keep the storyline and timeline to themselves, it helps us feel more into the series as whole when we can come up with the ideas ourselves. [16:47] because nintendons sometimes retarded [16:47] Rawr comes in right at the end [16:47] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Oh, good god yes! [16:47] * Rawr is now known as Guest59674 [16:47] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12No. Leave the GameFAQ's boards. [16:47] I say leave them there [16:47] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12Yes, forec [16:47] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12You see, I have a theory about the internet. [16:47] so the n00bs can stay there [16:47] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12*Forever [16:47] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12GameFAQ baords need to rot in hell. [16:47] and not bother the rest of us [16:47] Eh, they're handy when you're in a bind and dont feel like spending 15 bucks on a strat guide.. [16:47] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12It involves a set of 'wastebaskets' that bad members of the internet populate. [16:47] * Guest59674 is now known as Art1st47867 [16:47] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12(Such as Gaia, IGN, GameFAQ's, ect) [16:47] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Ok, her ecomes the real last question [16:47] I feel sorry for the few that aren't n00bs at game faqs [16:47] acutally mess thats good thinking [16:48] why would you stay there [16:48] Augh! I hate my internet! [16:48] there isnt any [16:48] Ok [16:48] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12FINAL QUESTION: [16:48] I hate your internet too, Art1st [16:48] well tsa is on there [16:48] DUN DUN DUN [16:48] hes not a n00b... [16:48] dun dun dun dun dun!!! [16:48] clearly [16:48] <4Chat Moderator> 12What pizza toppings are best? [16:48] * Art1st4786 (Art1st4786@init-5C11597C.hr.hr.cox.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [16:48] noobxxors [16:48] hehe [16:48] anchovise! [16:48] PEPPERONI FTW [16:48] o-o [16:48] cheese? [16:48] * Art1st47867 is now known as Art1st4786 [16:48] sausage, perrers, onion [16:48] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Do you think that Nintendo should ever consider a Legend of Zelda film. If so, what format should it be in. Could a Zelda film really "destroy" the series? [16:48] extra cheese nikas! [16:49] Ultra Pizza! [16:49] how many fake last questions are there? [16:49] no [16:49] pinaple pizza [16:49] *peppers [16:49] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12Brilliant question! [16:49] NO PEPPERS!! [16:49] notice the real question [16:49] James-ZU: plenty [16:49] AHAHAHAAHAHA good 1 TSA [16:49] they should and if not you should makes yours tsa! [16:49] it would be the perfect timeline [16:49] I don't think a movie would destroy the series... but it'd probably help Nintendo lose some respect. [16:49] As long as Link doesnt talk... [16:49] Only if it's animated, and very tightly controlled by Nintendo. Like, Microsoft hold on Halo move tight. [16:49] *If it sucked* [16:49] and it's done in a compitent way [16:49] <4Archaic Sage - RaurusReturn.net> 12No, there should never be an official film. It would simply be awful. I hate the idea of it and the fact that Nintendo could never please all of the fans make me sad. A Zelda film would divide a community more so than it does at the moment. If it was unofficial, then that's great. Otherwise, no. [16:49] but if they ever do it should be done by nintendo and be as much like the games as possible [16:49] yes a movie would KILL the Zelda series [16:50] Zelda should just stick to games [16:50] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12When are game-based-movies ever good, should be the question here. [16:50] never animated [16:50] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Oh yeah, stick around after because I have exclusive information to give out ;) [16:50] A live action zelda probably wouldn't work. [16:50] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Oh, I think they could make the movie idea work. (Personally, I loved Final Fantasy Spirits Within.) It just would have to be done perfectly... so we'd have to get Peter Jackson to make it. [16:50] It wouldn't [16:50] go from every game to the next, and link em together [16:50] CGI OR LIVE ACTION EVERYTHING ELSE CAN DIE [16:50] Maybe if it was like an Anime [16:50] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Should they consider it? Of course. It should be made a real life type of format. It can't destroy the series really. If the CD-I games couldn;t destroy the series, nothing can. [16:50] its hard to make a GOOD full length movie and not have your Main characer talk and [16:50] <4JC - psloz.com> 12A Zelda Film. Hmm...Alot of fans would be against it, but many for it. Theres all too many questions like "Who plays Link or Zelda" or "what game will take place in?" I personally think a real live action movie would destroy the series because it is defining who the characters should be. [16:50] Where Link could go Super Saiyan [16:50] so they just shouldnt make a movie [16:50] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Agreed. If it flops, fans will ignore it. [16:50] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12It may not be good, but you know what, we'll all go see it anyways [16:50] o-o [16:50] <4JC - psloz.com> 12A CG Zelda movie is the way to go. [16:51] Yes, but the CD-i games werent brought on at a large scale [16:51] a Zelda movie would be worldwide. [16:51] Link should be able to go Super Saiyan [16:51] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Somebody needs to find Steve Buscemi. He'd make a kickass townsperson. [16:51] lol [16:51] no supersayan link [16:51] Well, what if they presented it in more of an anime style? [16:51] lol [16:51] ye [16:51] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12If fans don't like it, they'll ignore it. Let's face it, people: we'll play Zelda, no matter how many mistakes Nintendo will make. [16:51] I mean [16:51] that would be sick [16:51] it could work.. [16:51] remember the animated series! it did not defuine the characters too bd [16:51] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12Only if it's something other than live action, and direct to DVD. A live-action, blockbuster film would make a laughing stock of Zelda. [16:51] but dude [16:51] that was the 00s [16:51] everything was crap in the 80s [16:51] LIKE I SAID BEFORE PEOPLE WOULD BUY **** WITH THE ZELDA LOGO ON IT [16:52] 90s [16:52] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12The idea of an official Zelda movie fills me with dread. An actual live action one with actual people could never really work because the people would never meet up to the fans expectations of what the characrter's should look like. And we just don't have the right cartoon animation at the moment I don't believe to properly carry off the storyline to its full potential. So No not a g [16:52] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Adapt one of the manga into an animated film. That's my opinion. [16:52] exactly [16:52] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12I wouldn't mind the movie being Anime or CG-style. I would love to see a Zelda movie. [16:52] I'd like that [16:52] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12I agree [16:52] do the film, just not live action [16:52] Just imagine Link and Zelda doing a porno together [16:52] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Manga lends itself more to a visual medium [16:52] that would be funny [16:52] if anything [16:52] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12Yeah [16:52] oh yeah that'd sell [16:52] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12But not unless it is properly done [16:52] Zelda hentai [16:52] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Video games are bad to adapt, period. [16:52] <4JC - psloz.com> 12And that's coming from TSA, the guy who wanted to make a live action Zelda film! :-p [16:52] Legend of Zelda: The Brothel Of Time [16:52] ye [16:52] starring the Olsen Twins [16:52] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12What if they created a whole new storyline? [16:52] * Damian is now known as DamianBRB [16:52] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12They're too much in the "mindscape" [16:52] i wouldnt mind anime if it was based off the akira himekawa manga [16:52] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12much like books... [16:53] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12What about LoTR? [16:53] And you see Link splashing his seed all over Zelda's face [16:53] they create a new storyline every other zelda game anyway [16:53] so it wouldnt be much different [16:53] * Darkness was kicked by Mess (Mess) [16:53] thank you mess [16:53] thanx mess [16:53] can i kick him too? [16:53] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Lord of the Rings only did well because it visually looked "awesome". As for accuracy and all that stuff, not sure - I'm not a well-versed LotR fan. [16:53] CG probably wouldn't work, it would tie into the games too much. Lets face it, WW style CG for 2 hours would go so bad, and TP graphics for 2 hours would seem odd. [16:53] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12It had wide appeal...it looked awesome, promised epic battles... [16:53] it was semi-accurate [16:53] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12And keyword here... [16:53] type /me kicks Darkness [16:53] not as good as it could have been, but meh [16:53] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12it was a big studio project [16:54] as good as could be expected, better even [16:54] TSA SHOULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE HIS FAN FILM AND PWN THAT OTHER REALLY STUPID LOOKIN ONE... [16:54] * ZeldaFan43686 (PJIRC@4F386414.D0986B72.D54239A8.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:54] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12I would only like to see a Zelda film if, and only if, the highest level of effort and standards went into it. I would rather have no Zelda movie than a terrible one. [16:54] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Most real film adaptations aren't even that... [16:54] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12It would be extremely hard to please all of the fans of Zelda, and if it was to be a major release, it would have to try and cater to the mainstream movie-going population, bringing Zelda to those who have never played the games. [16:54] * Zeldaforever kicks darkness [16:54] lol [16:54] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12My personal format preference is for CG, since it can be used to bring a lot of the fantasy elements to life, and it would prevent the, "That actor doesn't look like Link!" comments. [16:54] yea [16:54] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Uwe Boll's crap is like almost indie film. [16:54] Manga [16:54] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12and Indie Films are no way to go for a Zelda film. [16:54] NO UWE BOLL [16:54] well if the same people who did movies like Advent Children did a CG Zelda film, it'd be brilliant [16:54] NO [16:54] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12CG would be the best bet. [16:54] Zelda SUKCS [16:54] df [16:54] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Well, if it's done, it must be done perfectly. Otherwise, fans will ignore it and other people will give it funny looks. Won't hurt the series, but it'll hurt Nintendo's pocketbooks. [16:54] sa [16:54] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12You can't acheive the visual quality needed for a good Zelda film with indie production. [16:54] sd [16:54] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Nintendo would have to file a restraining order against Uwe Boll, just to make sure he didn't taint it. [16:55] * ZeldaFan43686 was kicked by Mess (Mess) [16:55] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12They'd have to find really good voice actors for the characters then. [16:55] Depends, though, because Zelda has a certain artistic style to live up to [16:55] it almost seems like tsa is against himself here [16:55] * Zeldaforever runs in circles [16:55] as long as they dont cell shade :P [16:55] lol [16:55] * ZeldaFan40383 (PJIRC@4F386414.D0986B72.D54239A8.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:55] * ZeldaFan39970 (PJIRC@init-4279B6DB.bmly.cable.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:55] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12But while Nintendo won't make a film, what's the harm in the fans making their own indie versions? [16:55] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12If the thing doesn't pass the visual test - it doesn't look like Zelda - nobody gives a damn about the story. [16:55] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12If Nintendo works with the movie producers the entire way, we're sure to get a good Zelda movie. [16:55] * ZeldaFan40383 was kicked by Mess (Mess) [16:55] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Billy Bob Thornton could easily do an animated Sahasrahala. [16:55] Final Fantasy could be 100% realistic in CG and still look fine. It can pull off that style. Zelda couldn't. [16:55] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12Didn't Nintendo open up that animation studio recently? [16:55] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Indie fan films are fine... [16:55] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12If they're like the Legend of Vernon. [16:55] Yeah, I rememebr that [16:55] they did open up a animation studio i believe [16:55] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12They don't take themselves seriously. [16:55] Cell shading wasnt bad. [16:55] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12And it's meant to be funny, and fan oriented. [16:56] I loved cel shading [16:56] it's just [16:56] same [16:56] It wouldn't work as a movie [16:56] Maybe link's big head was bad, [16:56] * ZeldaFan87949 (PJIRC@4F386414.D0986B72.D54239A8.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:56] exactly [16:56] * Zeldaforever throws a table at adam80r [16:56] yes it was [16:56] who is this mess guy [16:56] * ZeldaFan39970 is now known as Volcanux [16:56] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12If you're trying to make a serious Zelda indie film...I'm sorry...you need more time, more money, more resources than the entire community could come up with. [16:56] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12The way I see it, fan-made films are really no different to fanfics 'brought to life' [16:56] it would get slammed so hard Miyamoto probably wouldn't leave his house for a year [16:56] ? [16:56] * ZeldaFan53365 (PJIRC@init-F5E01166.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:56] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12There's nothing wrong with that. [16:56] <_< [16:56] thats true [16:56] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12But to me, it's Zelda. [16:56] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Zelda is held to a higher standard. [16:56] well stop being a doucebag and kicking me out [16:56] <4JC - psloz.com> 12You're better off sticking with fan games [16:56] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12Zelda movie production should be handled only by professionals and by Nintendo. [16:56] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Well to us, of course it is. [16:56] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12If there is to be a film, it must also be made with as much love, care and high quality production. [16:57] * ircleuser (qewijyyniv@init-8195B85B.lutn.cable.ntl.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:57] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12The problem is this: [16:57] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Just like LOTR book fans held it to a high standard [16:57] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Fan film = fan interpretation. [16:57] * ZeldaFan87949 is now known as TrojanMAN [16:57] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12most though the movies were crap. [16:57] one word: anime. the only way to go. [16:57] * ircleuser is now known as HaVoK [16:57] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Official film with Miyamoto and compnay = official [16:57] the only way to go [16:57] Fans would have less to about. [16:57] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12So are fan fics, fan art, and even fan games. [16:57] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Just like most of us will think a Zelda movie is crap. [16:57] Imagine the TP link (not in TP, but in another game) in Cell shading [16:57] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12Granted, movies do attract more scrutiny from fans. [16:57] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12They'd be like "Oh, Miyamoto made it. It will be official." [16:57] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12But, you all know we would still pay to see it. [16:57] Zelda should just get gangster and go resident evil style [16:57] anime is indeed ONE way to go, but not the only way [16:57] TP is cel shading [16:57] i say if nintendo were to go into the movie business, i don't think they should use current characters from current games [16:57] You see Link chopping heads [16:57] i still say the AC-like CG would be great [16:57] the only GOOD way to go [16:57] <4MNGoldenEagle - zso.krahs-emag.com> 12Oh, obviously. :P [16:57] yet a total new franchise [16:58] Like in Metal gear Acid 2, Snake didnt look different, just cell shaded [16:58] 's [16:58] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12There's a lot tha tneeds to be considered. [16:58] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 121) Creator involvement does not mean good film. [16:58] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Yeah [16:58] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12See - Final Fantasy [16:58] Zelda TP is NOT cel shaded [16:58] yeah [16:58] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12People paid to see the Doom movie after all, and look how spectacularly bad that way. [16:58] busier than i expected :S [16:58] and if it is im not buying [16:58] dont you ever speak of MGA again...that was a sick bastardization.. [16:58] :P [16:58] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12*was [16:58] well apprently FF7AC is good [16:58] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12if you stray too much...you lose fans. [16:58] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12But a Zelda movie isn't just about getting people to pay to see it [16:58] or so i heard [16:58] so, cell shaded COOL link would indeed be cool [16:58] apparantly? [16:58] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12I think that fan movies are ok even Zelda ones but I do agree with JC that fan games will always work better for the Zelda genre.. [16:58] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12But, there is the opposite end. [16:58] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Lol the best part of that film lasted 30 seconds [16:58] yes, FF7AC is brillaint [16:58] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Advent Children. [16:58] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12That's WAY too catered to fans. [16:58] that would be perfect [16:58] nah that cel shaded garbage is gone [16:58] the style i mean [16:58] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12it alienated too many people. [16:59] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12The thing is, even if a movie does come out, and it outright blows, nobody is going to stop being a Zelda fan. [16:59] watch at E3 2006 you see they change up Zelda and put it on Revolution [16:59] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12True [16:59] * eazyseph (eazyseph@init-BC17AF5B.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [16:59] indeed [16:59] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Mario the movie sucked. [16:59] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12They'll just pretend it didn't happen and move on with their lives. [16:59] ah, im considering in getting it this monday when it's out in over here in the UK [16:59] hey [16:59] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12All we can say is it's nintendo, and hope for the best. You know a video will come from them. [16:59] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I still see Mario games. [16:59] and yet they out Mario more than ever [16:59] yes the mario movie did suck [16:59] Mario Sucks period [16:59] agreed, haha [16:59] When was this chat room started? [16:59] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Thye know it will sell, and they want the money [16:59] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12lol good point [16:59] but I still watched it like 5 times when I was little XD [16:59] TSA R U STILL EVEN MAKING YOUR FAN FILM? [16:59] long time ago [16:59] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12I just don't think it should ever be left to fans. [16:59] they should make the moviem then test it on those lucky little boys and girls and if they like it, then release it as an oficlial. if not, make up a company and put it out under that name [16:59] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12But it a bad movie may prevent new gamers from picking up a Zelda game [16:59] really? [16:59] MArio vs Link [16:59] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Do we see fan games replacing official movies? [16:59] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Bad or not, i'll own it because it;s Zelda [16:59] and the winner is... [17:00] <4JC - psloz.com> 12Fan games are the way to go [17:00] Link [17:00] Link [17:00] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Or fan fictions replacing the offficial stories? [17:00] Link [17:00] Link [17:00] <4JC - psloz.com> 12they require alot of love and caring [17:00] you mean replacing official games? :D [17:00] Link [17:00] hehehe [17:00] <4JC - psloz.com> 12almost as much as a movie does [17:00] <4Chat Moderator> 12Okay [17:00] link owns mario [17:00] duz Marion Even have a chance? [17:00] <4Chat Moderator> 12I think that is the end of that time limit, no? [17:00] Guys, is this the end of the chat? [17:00] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12ahem tsa, what about your fan fiction from 2000, lots of simularities [17:00] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12lol [17:00] Ganon vs Bowser and the winner is... [17:00] or is there another intermission? [17:00] * TrojanMAN was kicked by Mess (Mess) [17:00] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12That's classified. [17:00] ganon [17:00] * ZeldaFan75250 (PJIRC@4F386414.D0986B72.D54239A8.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [17:00] hehehe [17:00] Ganon [17:00] on topic or leave [17:00] * Zeldaforever kicks trojanMAN too... [17:00] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12Okay, so here's the exclusive info. [17:01] * eazyseph kicks eazyseph [17:01] * eazyseph (eazyseph@init-BC17AF5B.dsl.mindspring.com) has left #zeldaroundtable [17:01] <4JC - psloz.com> 12Exclusive my ass :-p [17:01] Mess, is there going to be abother intermission, or is this pretty much the end of the roundtable? [17:01] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12LOL [17:01] DarthLink [17:01] lol [17:01] How do you Kick? [17:01] * ZeldaFan75250 is now known as DarthLink [17:01] * Dark (Darkness@init-BC17AF5B.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #zeldaroundtable [17:01] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12-_- [17:01] I believe it's done [17:01] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12The end I think [17:01] tyope /me [17:01] The roundtable is getting silly. [17:01] Okeydoke :) [17:01] having priliges :D [17:01] you have to be a admin to fully kick i believe, if kick meaning ban? [17:01] then its fun [17:01] EXCLUSIVE: SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE [17:01] yeah [17:01] * Zeldaforever scrams [17:01] ye I agree [17:01] I'm gonna go for a bit, I'll be back. [17:01] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12Thats not exclusive [17:01] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12pick up a book [17:01] * Zeldaforever screams [17:02] typo [17:02] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12we all know what snape does... [17:02] Thank god it's over [17:02] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12Shh! [17:02] lol nice job Nate [17:02] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12"We still don't know when TP is coming out." [17:02] HOW DO YOU KICK?! [17:02] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12We all know NOW. [17:02] <4Chat Moderator> 12XD [17:02] * Mess is shocked [17:02] * Zeldaforever starts doing tapdances [17:02] <4Chat Moderator> 12HAHA [17:02] <4Chat Moderator> 12nice [17:02] <4JC - psloz.com> 12lol [17:02] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12But... [17:02] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12lol [17:02] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12XD [17:02] you can't unless you're an op [17:02] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12But? [17:02] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12nice exclusiveness [17:02] or write in purple? [17:02] <4Jack - desertcolossus.com> 12boooo [17:02] good'day [17:02] * Mess (Mess@init-C770EFD2.buf.adelphia.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [17:02] but it would be / kick [17:02] you can't kickm unless if you're a admin i believe admin8or [17:02] ... [17:02] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12It will be playable on Revolution at E3. [17:02] *adam [17:02] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12;-) [17:02] * Zeldaforever says "purple owns" [17:02] ? [17:02] Chanal operator [17:02] ok [17:02] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Predictable. [17:02] ye [17:02] * TheTeej-ZSO-ZP is now known as TheTeej|Away [17:02] <4Nathan - zeldad.com> 12How do you know this? [17:02] dfs [17:02] sdf [17:03] <4Chat Moderator> 12He has contacts [17:03] <4Link of Hyrule - legendofzelda.com> 12However we do know that Link is a crossdressing Goron in this one ;) [17:03] i have contacts [17:03] <4Lysia - Legendofzeldaseries.com> 12Well that's all fine for those of you who are going to E3 ;-P [17:03] * DarthLink (PJIRC@4F386414.D0986B72.D54239A8.IP) Quit (Quit: Im out.) [17:03] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12On both...GCN...and Revolution. [17:03] * ZeldaFan72767 (PJIRC@4F386414.D0986B72.D54239A8.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [17:03] wait 20/20 vision [17:03] lol [17:03] * ZeldaFan72767 (PJIRC@4F386414.D0986B72.D54239A8.IP) Quit (Quit: ZeldaFan72767) [17:03] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12AND [17:03] i mean write in purple [17:03] * ZeldaFan89543 (PJIRC@4F386414.D0986B72.D54239A8.IP) has joined #zeldaroundtable [17:03] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12You will all finally see Ganon. [17:03] <4Art1st4786 - landofthelegend.net> 12WOO HOO!!! [17:03] * ZeldaFan89543 is now known as Maul [17:03] <4TSA - Thehylia.com> 12[runs] [17:03] wohoo! [17:03] <4Chat Moderator> 12okay END OF DISCUSSIOn [17:03] <4Captain Cornflake - vgrc.net> 12Your mother is playable, as well! [17:03] woohoo [17:03] type /me then the rest [17:03] watup peeps [17:03] o rly? [17:03] Haha [17:03] * Last_Chance (chance@init-C8F38EF2.lu.dl.cox.net) Quit (Quit: ) [17:03] * adam8or Woo Hoo! [17:03] * Zeldaforever screams ageain [17:03] EVERYONE!!! [17:03] sweet, Ganon [17:03] Okay [17:03] use only for narratives [17:04] ok [17:04] * HaVoK (qewijyyniv@init-8195B85B.lutn.cable.ntl.com) Quit (Quit: Quit) [17:04] non talking [17:04] HTTP://WWW.PSLOZ.COM/INDEX.PHP?PAGE=COF.HTM [17:04] te [17:04] visit it! [17:04] sorry [17:04] Zelda TP coming out Tomorrow [17:04] 'mother is playable, as well!' well, they are going to release another one ;) [17:04] YE YE!!! [17:04] i wish Maul [17:04] Ok [17:04] i kno [17:04] Thanks everyone for coming [17:04] where u live [17:04] I live in Australia [17:04] but Im reachin Japan [17:04] so im getting it there [17:04] * Zeldaforever runs in circles [17:04] Anyone who's up for general zelda discussion is welcome in #thehylia [17:04] I skipped out on the boring parts of this. [17:05] all you have to do is type /join #thehylia [17:05] * Zeldaforever kicks everyone in room [17:05] lol [17:05] Anyway, I'm out [17:05] * Zeldaforever retreats [17:05] Zelda Twilight Princess is comin tomorrow [17:05] see you all later [17:05] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Apr 22 17:05:16 2006