Yes, Nintendo had good reason to take action.

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Re: Yes, Nintendo had good reason to take action.

Postby Lon Lon Mower » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:08 pm

Never seen the movie, but Nintendo was right to take action if it went against their desired image. ESPECIALLY with this much 'publicity'. You only want the right advertising with a game like Zelda. Otherwise, it's way too easy to ruin things.
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Re: Yes, Nintendo had good reason to take action.

Postby XCuber » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:10 pm

Azazel wrote:xcuber The movie was great!! you talk about the murder and all that in the movie! Let me help define fan made movie for you *clears throat* a fan made movie is something fans portray in their own thoughts things they think would make it a tad different than what you normally see its just like a cover band they cover songs in their own way and sing them in their own way the same thing with a fan based movie they film and act and portray the story in their own way!! Understand? You talk about the blood in the movie, I think the blood and fights in their were great personally I think and I know several people will agree is they could use some of that in the games!! You say hero is supposed to protect people not do what was shown in Hero of Time here's a little news for ya EVERY game, movie,TV show etc.. the hero will fight and bring Blood if its to protect people its like a cop they are to protect the community and not use violence UNLESS its necessary!! So think about that for a second before you go any further!

Wow. O.o Okay, relax for a sec.
I'll repeat myself: What I'm saying is Nintendo probably saw it as that and it probably was a contributing factor. It was an image Nintendo didn't want their franchise to be portrayed in, which seems to be the case since Zelda games, as you've pointed out, do not go this far with violence. Don't get so worked about what I'm saying because I'm trying to explain Nintendo's actions, not mine.
As for the quality of the movie, the story telling was still rather sloppy. And that's the truth. Sorry if you liked it. That's your opinion and I respect that, but it certainly needed improvement.

Well, I'd like to say this so this doesn't happen again: PEOPLE DON'T GET ANGRY WITH ME FOR THIS! I don't want any silly arguments here, that's why I started this. I mean, expressing an opinion is one thing, just don't get all touchy about it, and DO NOT get angry with me. It's Nintendo that saw it fit to remove the film, not myself. I am simply explaining reasons they might have done so. If it were up to me, even though I didn't care for the film, it would have stayed on the internet.
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Re: Yes, Nintendo had good reason to take action.

Postby Lon Lon Mower » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:28 pm

NO XCUBAR! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT! I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU DID THIS!

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Couldn't help myself. Anyway, if it's bothering some people SO much, DO something. Send ol' Nintendo an e-mail. NOT an angry hate mail, have it be a carefully thought out message with logical mental steps as to why they should come to the conclusion of bringng it back. REMEMBER they have REASONS for doing this. So if it does not go your way then don't flip out. It's THEIR creation, they can control/alter/etc how they please.
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Re: Yes, Nintendo had good reason to take action.

Postby FightingTorque » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:19 pm

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Re: Yes, Nintendo had good reason to take action.

Postby Asaki » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:18 pm

XCuber wrote:I'll repeat myself: What I'm saying is Nintendo probably saw it as that and it probably was a contributing factor. It was an image Nintendo didn't want their franchise to be portrayed in, which seems to be the case since Zelda games, as you've pointed out, do not go this far with violence.


Like I said, I really have a hard time believing that Nintendo's lawyers actually watched this. Heck, often times they send C&D letters to websites telling them to take down content that isn't even violating any copyrights.

And that's really what it all boils down to, copyright violation. Some people can get away with it on grounds of parody law, but as Penny Arcade can attest, it's not always that easy.

I'm also pretty sure Nintendo don't let certain things slide because it's "good advertising" ;) Hero of Time was being shown in actual theatres and appeared to have a possibility of making money, instead of being quietly released on some private torrent somewhere under the radar, and I'm sure that's all it takes.
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Re: Yes, Nintendo had good reason to take action.

Postby XCuber » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:21 am

I agree that they don't allow things to happen for advertising. What I mean to say is in this case they might have thought it harmful. In other cases, they might figure it's not going to do any harm. Now do they go through every little fan work? No, not likely, but surely they've seen some. They're aware of it. But whatever, I've made my point.

@Lon Lon Mower:
Yeah, I agree. If you really want to write them, go for it. I gotta say, I don't think they'll change their minds, not if they already took action, but if it makes people feel better knock yourself out.
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Re: Yes, Nintendo had good reason to take action.

Postby Perry_ » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:05 pm

The movie was not great Asaki, it was a terribly written adaptation of the series. It portrayed Link, one of Nintendo's big icons, as a mindless killer. Those points you made about the special effects have nothing to do with it, whether there was blood or not, Link was brutal in that scene and it was an unjustified action for that character from a writing stand point.

Just to clear up Xcuber's point, Link is able to be a vengeful killer, we aren't disputing the writers' freedom to do what they want with the character. However the scene made no sense with the way the rest of the movie portrayed Link, there was no reason for the character to turn brutal and vengeful.

Considering your stance on The Sage of Darkness, it appears quite clearly to me that your tastes in movies puts special effects and action over a solidly written story. Actually scratch that, The Sage of Darkness's action was far better than The Hero of Time's. Therefore you seem to only care about high production values.
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Re: Yes, Nintendo had good reason to take action.

Postby 1st Mate Bob » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:53 am

Rasen wrote:Someone breaks into your home with a knife. You have a knife too. He drops/you disarm the knife, I think you'd continue to stab him.

That's still not murder. It would still fall under self defense. You could do the same if someone broke in without a weapon.



But as far as the film goes, think of it this way... if you were Miyamoto and you saw this film, what would be your response?

It would probably be something similar to. "Those aren't the way my characters should be represented. This is an abomination of my work. Get rid of it. Take legal action if necessary."

Even if it never even reached Miyamoto, I'm sure something like that would have occurred if it did.


Also, I would personally qualify the film as "bad advertising." Not because it was "bad," but because it was so different than what the actual games, themselves, are about.
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Re: Yes, Nintendo had good reason to take action.

Postby mawingu21 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:48 pm

XCuber wrote:
UchihaDarkLinkX wrote:I for one never was really interested in the movie. It looked too cheesy. I'm glad the movie wasn't official, or I would be, sadly to say, disappointed with Zelda.

You would be very disappointed if you saw it. The only reason to watch it, I'd say, is to satisfy your curiosity as to how bad it actually is. Otherwise, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, fans of the games nor people unfamiliar with them.


Totally agree with you XCuber.
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Re: Yes, Nintendo had good reason to take action.

Postby Asaki » Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:02 pm

Perry_ wrote:The movie was not great Asaki, it was a terribly written adaptation of the series.
Those points you made about the special effects have nothing to do with it...
Considering your stance on The Sage of Darkness...


Personally I thought it was a really fun movie to watch, and I've already watched it four or five times.

But I think you have me confused with someone else. I didn't make any points about the special effects, and I've never seen The Sage of Darkness.

Looking through page 2, I believe you've got me mixed up with Azazel.
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Re: Yes, Nintendo had good reason to take action.

Postby Perry_ » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:25 am

You are right, sorry for that, neither of you have avatars and the names look similar when only skimming over them.

Azazel that post was directed at you.
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